Don King might just Give Boxing a huge boost!!!

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  • masterdirector
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    #31
    I'm surprised so many are against this. Yeah, its King running it, but it is still a lot more exposure. And think about it, even if it is just weekly Friday Night Fights type shows, we'll never get pre-empted for ****ing log rolling or cycling or whatever bull**** ESPN2 likes to do now.

    And who knows? King could possibly bring forth a couple decent sponsers. Though I'm not super wild on the idea of King running the network, it could be a lot worse. As far as worrying that all his cards would be on PPV...I doubt it. He'd have less reason to need PPV. There's this misconception that promoters like charging fans at home $50 a pop to see the big fights. That's actually not the case. Promoters basically have to do that because they can't get good enough sponsorship. The amount the promoters gets from PPV buys is nowhere near what they could make from sponsors.

    And really what are HBO and Showtime besides just really extended PPV channels anyhow? We have to pay extra every month to get them. Imagine this, King gets his network going and it grows. They start having fights like they have on HBO for "free" on that channel. Then say they keep doing the $50 PPVs for big fights. We'd still save in the end. Premium channel packages cost upwards of $12 extra a month on satellite dish, even higher for cable. That'd be a savings of $144 and up, which is almost 3 whole PPVs. Yeah, not a huge savings, but significant enough I think.

    And, since the HBO level fights would now be on a Boxing channel, which isn't a premium channel, this increases potential viewers. So then, that increases the audience, which could lead to a higher rate of people willing to buy the PPV. If you've got a bigger audience, you can afford to lower that PPV price.

    And hey, even worst case, if King's channel is just an avenue for King to promote his fighters and display them, is it really that bad? At least it'd be competition for HBO and Showtime. Competition makes everybody have to work harder.

    Check out the WWF. 5 years ago, wrestling was easily the highest rated cable show, by far. Vince McMahon bought out his competition and then what happened? No competition meant the WWF didn't have to try hard. That meant a weaker product. Competition is what fueled the WWF.

    That's an element boxing needs, networks competing to want to host the bigger fights.

    Though, this still isn't "the answer" to the problems in boxing, it certainly isn't that bad of an idea.

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    • LOAk
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      #32
      Originally posted by masterdirector
      I'm surprised so many are against this. Yeah, its King running it, but it is still a lot more exposure. And think about it, even if it is just weekly Friday Night Fights type shows, we'll never get pre-empted for ****ing log rolling or cycling or whatever bull**** ESPN2 likes to do now.

      And who knows? King could possibly bring forth a couple decent sponsers. Though I'm not super wild on the idea of King running the network, it could be a lot worse. As far as worrying that all his cards would be on PPV...I doubt it. He'd have less reason to need PPV. There's this misconception that promoters like charging fans at home $50 a pop to see the big fights. That's actually not the case. Promoters basically have to do that because they can't get good enough sponsorship. The amount the promoters gets from PPV buys is nowhere near what they could make from sponsors.

      And really what are HBO and Showtime besides just really extended PPV channels anyhow? We have to pay extra every month to get them. Imagine this, King gets his network going and it grows. They start having fights like they have on HBO for "free" on that channel. Then say they keep doing the $50 PPVs for big fights. We'd still save in the end. Premium channel packages cost upwards of $12 extra a month on satellite dish, even higher for cable. That'd be a savings of $144 and up, which is almost 3 whole PPVs. Yeah, not a huge savings, but significant enough I think.

      And, since the HBO level fights would now be on a Boxing channel, which isn't a premium channel, this increases potential viewers. So then, that increases the audience, which could lead to a higher rate of people willing to buy the PPV. If you've got a bigger audience, you can afford to lower that PPV price.

      And hey, even worst case, if King's channel is just an avenue for King to promote his fighters and display them, is it really that bad? At least it'd be competition for HBO and Showtime. Competition makes everybody have to work harder.

      Check out the WWF. 5 years ago, wrestling was easily the highest rated cable show, by far. Vince McMahon bought out his competition and then what happened? No competition meant the WWF didn't have to try hard. That meant a weaker product. Competition is what fueled the WWF.

      That's an element boxing needs, networks competing to want to host the bigger fights.

      Though, this still isn't "the answer" to the problems in boxing, it certainly isn't that bad of an idea.
      Great Post

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      • Manny_P
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        #33
        hell yea boxing 24/7! It's a "kewl" idea.

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        • repsa
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          #34
          Like him or not you have to admit King knows how to sell. His days are numbered but rest assured the real Don wont go down without a fight

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          • Cereal
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            #35
            Bull****, he's a virus. Whatever he gives to boxing its just reimbursement for the **** he has put the sport through. When he leaves the game maybe we'll see the fights we wana see instead of 'protected' fighters. Whatever happened to being the best?

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            • Cereal
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              #36
              On reflection, 'The Rumble in the Jungle' was a logistical nightmare and he pulled it off so credit for that, the charming bastard. I don't run with the idea that he's evil or that kinda thing but its like Holmes said, the guy only cares about the green.

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              • masterdirector
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                #37
                Why is Don King always blamed for everything bad in the sport? He isn't the one trying to protect fighters. Cereal, what fighters has Don King protected? Tyson? He put Tyson in against Razor Ruddock and Evander Holyfield to protect him? Easy fights?
                Tito Trinidad vs. DLH was for Trinidad's protection?
                Spinks vs. Judah? Mormeck against the highly favored Braithewaite?

                There are other promoters out there guilty of protecting their fighters heavily, but King isn't one I'd put into that category. He's done enough bad to not need to make **** up about him. And whatever you want to say, he has done good for the sport. If it weren't for a personality like King, boxing would be worse off. He at least keeps the sport on peoples' minds. You know the old cliche, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

                I just get sick of King, the only black promoter, getting all this hatred while nobody shows all this contempt for any of the other promoters, who are just as bad as King.

                Cedric Kushner, Dino Duva, Goossen, and Arum all have admitted, on record, to bribery. They've admitted to corruption. There is tons of hard proof that Arum has fixed fights recently. Not to mention defrauding the US Government out of taxes and ripping off boxers (specifically Yory Boy Campus, which I can give you documents that I have saved proving this), and conspiracy to commit crime.

                And I'd say Frank Warren protects his fighters rather heavily. Look what he's done with Hatton, very carefully manuevuered him to this match with Tszyu, making TONS of money off Hatton by marketing him as England's Son, beating Mitchell fodder, then getting a shot against Tszyu. Go look at Mitchell's record, then Hatton's. Notice their last 4-5 opponents (including Tszyu) have been the same. This'll be Hatton's first real test. Warren probably expects Hatton to lose, but figures he can squeeze this one last payday from him. If Hatton wins, Warren wins anyhow.

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                • Slipx
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                  #38
                  ^^
                  yet another useless post from Scott Baio's #1 fan.

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                  • USA4LIFE
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eyeh8you
                    Yeah and don't forget that lame ass hiphop BS. Just what I wanna see FatHoe intro music to Tito or Cotto and Jayzpee to Judah or Tyson. *** that garbage
                    Damb right brother, and slayer rules.

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                    • Truth
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                      #40
                      Honestly King is bad for boxing just because of his repuatation.

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