A MAJOR difference between MMA/UFC and BOXING

[fluent2332]

Calzaghe is a prime example of why people don't take boxing as seriously anymore...

i think thats what makes boxing boxing. theres controversy, bad deciisons, politics involved in matchmaking, guys who duck fighters, "champs" who dont want to fight other beltholders, etc. it all adds to boxing in some way.

you guys want it to be more like the UFC, but thats not what makes boxing special. even if you hate those things i mentioned you have to admit they add to the drama and intrigue of boxing, and what sets it apart from other sports that are cut and dry. boxing is a living and breathing sport

boxing does its own thing, and it wouldnt be the same without controversy and debate

[DLT]

UFC/MMA fights are only 3 to 5 rounds so anyone can win or lose just like on the Contender. You really cant tell much difference between most of the fighters in the group. There all capable of beating eachother. If you fight for 12 rounds then the best fighter will eventually show and its easier to tell in boxing.

There are also better fights made in the UFC because I think there's only one title per division and theres not much money so you have to fight the best guys if you want to even make peanuts

[THE REAL NINJA]

It's hard to judge odds when even some of the very best MMA fighters only have around 20 fights in their whole career .

[Left2body]

left2body ive fixed ur post for you buddy
in mma is easier to get an advantage over your opponent has your alloud to use all of your body for fighting so the best skilled fighter isnt always the winner , it only takes one slip up and ur locked in a submision

Iron Mike, I'm not trying to dis-Calz...I'll favor him against any other SMW. I dont want this to devolved into a Calz thread.

What I'm mostly saying is that boxing doesn't seem to be suffering from lack of talent its suffering from lack of a cohesive direction. I had created an earlier thread in which i differentiate between belt holders/titlist and true Champions.

For me Calz is one of the few Champions out there. I see Kessler as a Titlist/Belt holder/Contender.

Hatton is the Champion of jrWW even though he doesn't have all the belts.

Mayweather was a Champ at 130, 135, 147 but was only a titlist at 140 and 154.

We need more champions fighting contenders/titlist and unifying belts or IDEALY we cut down a lot of these belts.

[Mozza]

Iron Mike, I'm not trying to dis-Calz...I'll favor him against any other SMW. I dont want this to devolved into a Calz thread.

What I'm mostly saying is that boxing doesn't seem to be suffering from lack of talent its suffering from lack of a cohesive direction. I had created an earlier thread in which i differentiate between belt holders/titlist and true Champions.

For me Calz is one of the few Champions out there. I see Kessler as a Titlist/Belt holder/Contender.

Hatton is the Champion of jrWW even though he doesn't have all the belts.

Mayweather was a Champ at 130, 135, 147 but was only a titlist at 140 and 154.

We need more champions fighting contenders/titlist and unifying belts or IDEALY we cut down a lot of these belts.

I agree with you completely and I think this is essentially what Dana White has been saying too in his so-called attacks on boxing.

[TheEvilSaint]

thats one thing i love about the UFC. theres is no speculation about "what would happen if this guy fought that guy" or "who vs who". there was no speculation about jackson fighting liddell because people KNEW it was going to happen.

in boxing, you can have a billion dream matches in each division and probly only 2 or 3 will get made.

i hope everybody enjoyed the hype surrounding oscar vs floyd. cuz that **** aint happening again.

[Easy-E]

Thats a good point.
Also, UFC has many more upsets than boxing because theres so many ways you can lose.

[Dorian]

The Ufc fighters always fight the best.... they are not scared... sadly in boxing it rarely happens

[fluent2332]

bull****, the UFC fighters fight everyone because their sport doesn't have superstars that dominate. the UFC is like a coin toss, anyone can beat anyone, so in the end all you get is a mish-mash of nobodies who have beaten everyone and lost to everyone else. in the long run this will turn the UFC into a joke. in my eyes it has already

in boxing you have bigger names and each fight means MUCH more then any UFC fight. a win or a loss can make or break you in boxing, in UFC losses are common and champs get KTFO and it doesn't matter.

thats why UFC is a passing phase, a fad. it will never last unless they change the rules to be more like boxing. you can't build a sport around guys like Liddell and Ortiz when these guys can, and have, get KTFO any given night. when that happens your sport loses all credibility it was trying to build

also - UFC has no "upsets", boxing has true upsets that happen less often and hold more weight because you don't see them all the time, and when you do its something special. just like big fights in boxing, if there were 10 mayweather/DLH type fights a year, the aura surrounding those fights would be decreased dramatically and it would turn into another UFC-like mish-mash where the fights don't mean **** in the long run.

[TheEvilSaint]

bull****, the UFC fighters fight everyone because their sport doesn't have superstars that dominate. the UFC is like a coin toss, anyone can beat anyone, so in the end all you get is a mish-mash of nobodies who have beaten everyone and lost to everyone else. in the long run this will turn the UFC into a joke. in my eyes it has already

in boxing you have bigger names and each fight means MUCH more then any UFC fight. a win or a loss can make or break you in boxing, in UFC losses are common and champs get KTFO and it doesn't matter.

thats why UFC is a passing phase, a fad. it will never last unless they change the rules to be more like boxing. you can't build a sport around guys like Liddell and Ortiz when these guys can, and have, get KTFO any given night. when that happens your sport loses all credibility it was trying to build

also - UFC has no "upsets", boxing has true upsets that happen less often and hold more weight because you don't see them all the time, and when you do its something special. just like big fights in boxing, if there were 10 mayweather/DLH type fights a year, the aura surrounding those fights would be decreased dramatically and it would turn into another UFC-like mish-mash where the fights don't mean **** in the long run.

bull****, total bull****.

its better when everyone fights everyone when everyone fights no one like in boxing. ortiz, liddel, and couture are all nobodies cuz they all fought and beat each other. yeah, thats like saying foreman, ali, and frazier are all nobodies cuz they fought and beat each other.

boxing and UFC are identical in the comeback department. a win and a loss can make you or break you in both sports, it all depends on how you handle it. nobody forces you to disappear after you lose. you DO have the option of fighting again. it all depends on how much you want to.

so, when tito and liddell got knocked out, they lost all their star power, right? i guess thats why liddell appeared on late night with dave letterman a week after he lost. after forrest griffin got knocked out, nobody wanted to see him again, right? i guess thats why dana white still has him fighting in the UFC, cuz nobody wants to see him....

in the past seven months, every UFC title has changed hands, the welterweight title twice. you mean to tell me that none of those fights were upsets? couture beating tim sylvia wasnt an upset? jackson knocking out liddell in the 1st wasnt an upset? anderson silva knocking out rich franklin in the 1st wasnt an upset? you cannot possibly say that matt serra knocking out george st pierre (in the 1st round no less) was not an upset. thats just ****ing ******, saying the UFC has "no upsets".

the mayweather/de la hoya fight was a once in a lifetime thing. there will never be a superfight that big again, especially not in the sorry ass state boxing is in right now. BOXING is the one with no superstars. the only one left is de la hoya and he's on his way out. UFC gets an average of 15,000 people in their PPVs. boxing in america draws a paltry 8,000.

if the UFC is a fad, what does that make boxing? the real deal? the sport that will survive? the sport that people will talk about and be attracted to for years to come?

boxing isnt dying, its commiting suicide. dont feel sorry for a business that ****s itself over.