What do the book makers know that Judah and 50/50 pickers don't?

[damian5000]

The odds are -370 in Vegas and -400 on the majority of ******** sites. They're not even giving Judah a halfway fair shot at winning. So what are the bookmakers missing?

Or maybe more to the point.... What is it they see that Judah pickers are failing to?

[denboy]

I was suprised how much of an underdog judah is, maybe the bookies know something the rest of us don't

[damian5000]

Yea, that's what I'm wonderin'. They're not even giving Judah half a chance of winning and they're the ones with real cash on the line....For themselves, but even more so for the companies they work for. Yet you've got almost half the people here thinking Judah's going to take it.

[Left2body]

You guys really have a misconception about handicappers. Handicappers or odds makers shift a line based on BETTING patterns not going to WIN. Betting patterns are based on a team or fighters popularity and on a gamblers confidence of a particular team or fighter. Popular sports teams and fighters often have heavy odds on there side because there fans want to bet ON them not against them.

Sports Handicappers try and shift the line (odds) in order to draw equal an equal amount of money to BOTH teams or fighters.

The heavy odds on Cotto (which are actually -275) only represents a large amount of money from fans (probably a lot of Puerto Ricans) that are betting on Cotto. Cotto is more popular than Judah.

Also with 2 recent losses his limited fan base will have a dwindled amount of betting confidence on him.

If you look at actual boxing announcers and experts you'll get a fairly even split between the two fighters. Its actually a pickem in my eyes.

[OptimusWolf]

1) Odds are not based directly on the likelihood of a fighter winning, but on balancing the books of the bookmakers. Thus it could be that big money is going on Cotto, and the bookmakers can't afford to payout huge should he win.

2) Judah hasn't exactly shown us that he is the man for the big occasion has he. One v good win over Spinks where he was behind on the cards until the round in which he won.

That said, at those odds I'd take Judah all the way.

[OptimusWolf]

sorry left to body, you make the point much more thoroughly and more timely to boot...

[STEELHEAD]

in respect to betting ,this fight is similar to the gatti/balomir. gatti unbeliviable was favored because people betted with there heart.i'm doing the same here. my heart says zab by tko. but my smart moneys on cotto by decision.or is it smart?

[damian5000]

You guys really have a misconception about handicappers. Handicappers or odds makers shift a line based on BETTING patterns not going to WIN. Betting patterns are based on a team or fighters popularity and on a gamblers confidence of a particular team or fighter. Popular sports teams and fighters often have heavy odds on there side because there fans want to bet ON them not against them.

Sports Handicappers try and shift the line (odds) in order to draw equal an equal amount of money to BOTH teams or fighters.

The heavy odds on Cotto (which are actually -275) only represents a large amount of money from fans (probably a lot of Puerto Ricans) that are betting on Cotto. Cotto is more popular than Judah.

Also with 2 recent losses his limited fan base will have a dwindled amount of betting confidence on him.

If you look at actual boxing announcers and experts you'll get a fairly even split between the two fighters. Its actually a pickem in my eyes.

I understand all that. I wouldn't say Cotto is more popular than Judah. At least not by how far the book makers are putting it. WHERE are you getting the -275 odds at??? The Vegas Sun reports Cotto at -370. And the majority of the ******** sites have Cotto at -400. A couple at -450. There's no way Cotto is THAT much more popular than Judah.

http://odds.bestbetting.com/boxing/professional-boxing/cotto-v-judah/fight-result

[Left2body]

I understand all that. I wouldn't say Cotto is more popular than Judah. At least not by how far the book makers are putting it. WHERE are you getting the -275 odds at??? The Vegas Sun reports Cotto at -370. And the majority of the ******** sites have Cotto at -400. A couple at -450. There's no way Cotto is THAT much more popular than Judah.

http://odds.bestbetting.com/boxing/p...h/fight-result

Sportsbook is pretty popular and I have used them and other sites before depending on who had the better odds. Although I'm not betting on this fight I still like to follow lines and study how they move.

Also Yes, Cotto is much much more popular than Judah. Cotto sold out MSG against Paulie when Paulie was totally unknown and had pretty good PPV numbers to. Even though he was going head to head with Hopkins-Tarver.

Judah is no where near as popular as Cotto.

[damian5000]

I guess they DID know something Judah and 50/50 pickers didn't know. Too bad I didn't listen to them this time around. Coulda woulda shoulda been up $6000 if I'd bet on my (and the bookies) last 2 picks (Ibrigamov/Cotto).

I didn't see the fight, but 97-91 at the stoppage doesn't sound so 50/50, especially since Zab was supposedly going to be the top guy the first few rounds.