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  • Ashyknuckles
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    #41
    Originally posted by Soldier01
    Lets not forget who they were against.
    Very true, they weren't world beaters at all. I used that statement to reflect that fact that Judah can punch. And if an opponent shouldn't be in the ring with him, it becomes abundantly clear early in the fight. Cotto only has 1 first round KO which isn't indicative of the type of power he has, but more so of the fact that he's late starter.

    I should have touched on the fact that when Judah has an opponent hurt, he finishes them. Very few opponents survived after Judah has them on ***** street. And out of the 39 fights, 30+ have been knocked down. And I feel Cotto will be put down on Saturday, possibly early.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #42
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      I think this is a pretty typical response from people who are picking Judah.

      "Judah has good power"

      "Cotto has a weak/shaky/suspect chin"

      "If Judah A shows up he'll win, if Judah B shows up he loses"

      I see a lot of Judah people covering their tracks. I know that there are some folk on this board that are hard to take...but just be a fan. No need to try and split hairs so that you'll look good on a message board regardless of the outcome. If you're taking Judah, just take Judah...if it's Cotto just take Cotto outright...no ifs, ands, or buts.

      Basically what I'm getting at is Judah will win if he's the better fighter...or Cotto will win if he's the better fighter. I think Cotto is just outright better than Judah and he'll win this fight. I believe that Judah needs a fragile opponent in front of him right now and Miguel Cotto is not that guy. Cotto will fight smart, he'll find Judahs body, and his surprising speed will lead to several hard shots being landed upstairs. I'm taking Cotto by mid-late round stoppage. I have followed Cotto for a long time now and I know that this kid has all kinds of skill and determination, regardless of his late struggles at 140.

      As far as Judah stopping Cotto, I think that would most likely result from Judah's handspeed and Cotto's small reach. Cotto is vulnerable when he starts throwing power shots to make his way inside instead of being patient and working inside intelligently. Judah being a lefty with fast hands and all...that could lead to him landing something that Cotto doesn't see on his way inside.
      To blindly pick one guy over the other when you are not emotionally attached is not easy. I will for sake of argument go ahead and pick Judah to win this fight. It's not about covering my tracks or wanting one guy to win over the other. It's more about the difficulty of picking this specific fight and wondering how good Cotto really is. I know you pro-Cotto guys are sold he's a super star and the next great Puerto Rican fighter but I'm not sold on him just yet. Fact is he hasn't showed well in his big fights, getting knocked down twice and there are still alot big names out there for him to fight to really prove he is the best.

      To be honest with you I actually hope Cotto wins because I would like to see the match up everyone is talking about and thats Cotto vs Margarito. I think this fight would be better and bigger for boxing. And just for the record, because I have been accused of hating Puerto Rican fighters on this forum by some, I actually like Cotto as a person. He seems very humble and well spoken (in spanish) and seems to carry himself with alot of class.

      In saying all that, Judah by 11th round TKO. Ref stops the fight....

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      • cupcrazy01
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        #43
        Get your favorite pillow and take some Nyquil, now go to bed.

        Cotto TKO11.

        I do think, however, that this fight will be great for the first 4-5 rounds until Zab tires and gets on his bike. He may make it to the final bell but I can't see him winning this fight, not after Cotto withstands early assaults and wears Judah down to the body.

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        • Undocumented
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          #44
          Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
          The one thing I don't here any of you guys say much is how Judah also has the ability to KO Cotto. First off we know Cotto doesn't have a stelar chin and second, it's not as if Judah can't punch.

          I will go on the record and say I think Judah will win the fight. Most that agree will say that he will win by a decision and by boxing. I am starting to think that maybe Judah has a better chance of KO Cotto out than Cotto does him.

          Again it also depends on which Judah shows. If the Judah that showed up for Mayweather shows, I believe he can beat Cotto. If the Judah that showed up against Baldomir shows up, he will lose. What do you guys think the chances of Judah KO Cotto are?

          Cotto has an above avg. chin, at 147lbs he has walked thru shots...Chautemocahahaca, you're Mexican.. When does a Mexican EVER root for a PR? The level of envy is rediculous. Mexicans do take a nice glove to the center of face though..it may not look brilliant, or skillful..but it sure is funny.

          Now with this BS "which Judah shows up" < Thjat has more to do with what he is ALLOWED to do in the ring. I see you alreadyhave your excuse lined up...

          For the record: I don't like Mexicans. I find them to be sneaky little people and chronically envious of Puerto Ricans. Orale puessssssss entoncesssssssss
          Last edited by Undocumented; 06-07-2007, 12:36 PM.

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          • Del Coqui
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            #45
            Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
            The one thing I don't here any of you guys say much is how Judah also has the ability to KO Cotto. First off we know Cotto doesn't have a stelar chin and second, it's not as if Judah can't punch.

            I will go on the record and say I think Judah will win the fight. Most that agree will say that he will win by a decision and by boxing. I am starting to think that maybe Judah has a better chance of KO Cotto out than Cotto does him.

            Again it also depends on which Judah shows. If the Judah that showed up for Mayweather shows, I believe he can beat Cotto. If the Judah that showed up against Baldomir shows up, he will lose. What do you guys think the chances of Judah KO Cotto are?
            Would you guys stop the "what Judah will show up" argument? Its getting old already, the man just spent 8 weeks training his ass off in some hick town for the best performance of his life. About Judah having a better chance of KOing Cotto than Cotto KOing Judah, all I can tell you is Cotto ain't no Chino Rivera. Quintana who has a great KO ratio couldn't put a dent on Cotto and hit him with all he had. At 147 Cotto aint weight drained anymore and is gonna take Judah's head off.

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              #46
              Originally posted by gerardofpr
              Would you guys stop the "what Judah will show up" argument? Its getting old already, the man just spent 8 weeks training his ass off in some hick town for the best performance of his life. About Judah having a better chance of KOing Cotto than Cotto KOing Judah, all I can tell you is Cotto ain't no Chino Rivera. Quintana who has a great KO ratio couldn't put a dent on Cotto and hit him with all he had. At 147 Cotto aint weight drained anymore and is gonna take Judah's head off.


              I agree: It's which judah Cotto allows him to be... Judah is fast...but Judah has Judah's speed qoing down too. Remeber Kostya... remember...

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              • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                #47
                Originally posted by Undocumented
                Cotto has an above avg. chin, at 147lbs he has walked thru shots...Chautemocahahaca, you're Mexican.. When does a Mexican EVER root for a PR? The level of envy is rediculous. Mexicans do take a nice glove to the center of face though..it may not look brilliant, or skillful..but it sure is funny.

                Now with this BS "which Judah shows up" < Thjat has more to do with what he is ALLOWED to do in the ring. I see you alreadyhave your excuse lined up...

                For the record: I don't like Mexicans. I find them to be sneaky little people and chronically envious of Puerto Ricans. Orale puessssssss entoncesssssssss
                Are you Puerto Rican? Or do you not have enough balls to show your true colors? Why would Mexican's be envious of Puerto Ricans?? That question baffles me.............

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