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DLT, nice ramble.
However, I see no reference to the most important fight that he could have made - Kostya Tszyu. Oh, that's right - he never wanted any part of him.
I guess he must have seen something in Harris that he didn't like either, as Harris was calling him out like crazy so the fight would appear to have been pretty easy to make.
Why would he "go through hell" to make a fight with the weakest of the 4 belt holders?
And what the hell is he doing calling out a 5'3 122/126 lb fighter in Naz when he's got the likes of Casamayor desperate to fight him?
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Originally posted by Cletus Funk View PostDLT, nice ramble.
However, I see no reference to the most important fight that he could have made - Kostya Tszyu. Oh, that's right - he never wanted any part of him.
I guess he must have seen something in Harris that he didn't like either, as Harris was calling him out like crazy so the fight would appear to have been pretty easy to make.
Why would he "go through hell" to make a fight with the weakest of the 4 belt holders?
And what the hell is he doing calling out a 5'3 122/126 lb fighter in Naz when he's got the likes of Casamayor desperate to fight him?Last edited by DLT; 06-07-2007, 12:31 AM.
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Yeah, there wasn't that much time for a Tszyu fight whilst Floyd was actually at 140 due KT's layoff. I just wished Floyd had moved up earlier instead of ****ing around with guys like N'dou and Sosa and not taken fights like Brusseles and Corley when he actually got to 140. He should have gone straight for Kostya after the 2nd Castillo fight, with maybe 1 warm up at the weight. I guess the Judah destruction put a few seeds of doubt in his mind.
The networks may have played a part but you could say the same thing about a Hatton fight, he was a Showtime fighter back then too. So was Naz as I recall.
Originally posted by DLT View PostDont forget that at that time Naz was the man. He was getting more hype then nearly anyone in boxing and he was at 126 while Floyd was at 130. Floyd even said that he would try to meet him at 128. I dont blame Naz for turning it down but Floyd did try. The Tszyu fight was always one of those problem fights. 1st off they were on seperate networks and they didnt make enough money to have the 2 come together like Tyson-Lewis. 2nd, Floyd was always smaller and by time he got to 140, Tszyu was always inactive and injuriedLast edited by Cletus Funk; 06-07-2007, 12:53 AM.
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Originally posted by Cletus Funk View PostYeah, there wasn't that much time for a Tszyu fight whilst Floyd was actually at 140 due KT's layoff. I just wished Floyd had moved up earlier instead of ****ing around with guys like N'dou and Sosa and not taken fights like Brusseles and Corley when he actually got to 140. He should have gone straight for Kostya after the 2nd Castillo fight, with maybe 1 warm up at the weight. I guess the Judah destruction put a few seeds of doubt in his mind.
The networks may have played a part but you could say the same thing about a Hatton fight, he was a Showtime fighter back then too. So was Naz as I recall.
The difference between Floyd-Tsyzu vs Floyd-Hatton is the timetable was a little different. The stuff I said about a Tszyu fight being like Tsyon-Lewis was true. However, right after that it changed because Floyd's contract was up with HBO and Showtime ended its long term contracts with fighters and switched to a fight by fight basis. Thats why Hatton fights on HBO now. Floyd isnt even under contract with HBO right now. I wouldve loved to see that fight though but it was just weird timing. A more reasonable fight was Mosley vs Tszyu. That fight shouldve definatly happened
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I kind of agree with what you're saying but you've got to strike whilst the iron's hot, and KT wasn't getting any younger. And let's not forget that Floyd had no issues going to 154 after 3 fights at 147, 2 of which were fairly pointless and untaxing, and straight into a fight with a guy as accomplished as DLH.
The thing that annoys me most about the Tszyu fight not happening is that Floyd was gunning for Hatton whilst Hatton was gunning for KT. Hatton had achieved nothing really at that point yet Floyd was still hunting him instead of the daddy of the division. Although as a Hatton fan, I'm pretty happy it turned out the way it did.
Yeah, Mosley v KT would have been great. DLH v KT too.
Originally posted by DLT View PostWow, thats not fair. You want floyd to fight all those years at 130, have just 2 fights at 135 and go straight to Tszyu at 140? You want him to have all those fights at 130, then his next 3 fights are JLC at 135 and Tszyu at 140? Im not saying he couldnt have done it but that would really put him at a disadvantage. Also, it was a nice fight to see but its not like a ton of people were clamoring for the fight. Still, alot of people thought it couldve happened if Tszyu wouldve beat Hatton. That was the perfect time. Floyd finally got the Gatti fight and if Tszyu wouldve won then that fight wouldve been huge.
The difference between Floyd-Tsyzu vs Floyd-Hatton is the timetable was a little different. The stuff I said about a Tszyu fight being like Tsyon-Lewis was true. However, right after that it changed because Floyd's contract was up with HBO and Showtime ended its long term contracts with fighters and switched to a fight by fight basis. Thats why Hatton fights on HBO now. Floyd isnt even under contract with HBO right now. I wouldve loved to see that fight though but it was just weird timing. A more reasonable fight was Mosley vs Tszyu. That fight shouldve definatly happened
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