Who has a more impressive boxing resume:Mosley or De La Hoya

[oldgringo]

When I hear commentators or regular folks say that De la hoya has lost to every elite fighter and they include Mosley in the conversation , well that's laughable. Like I said Mosley is probably a cool guy but his claim to fame is beating De La hoya in a split decision. I thought that that he did win the first fight but not the second. So why is he an elite fighter? Does one victory over a top fighter make you elite?If that's so then I guess mayorga was an elite fighter.

I see what you're saying to an extent, but the Mayorga comp is a bit eccentric.

Mosley is a guy who is obviously very skilled. I shouldn't really have to highlight his past accomplishments because I'm sure you're aware of them, but they are worth noting. Former IBF Lightweight champ (8 title defenses); 2 time WBC Welterweight champ; former Jr. Middleweight champ; wins over De La Hoya, Leija, Vargas, Molina and Holiday...

Not spectacular wins, but he has beaten a lot of solid opponents and one great opponent in Oscar. He has only lost to two guys who were both bigger than he was. Mosley should get some respect for being ambitious and for taking on tough opponents when he didn't exactly have to. He is still fighting at a high level now 13 years into his career.

Oscar has the better ledger (in fact one of the best in the history of the sport based on quality of competition faced alone) but Shane has had a great career too.

[RAESAAD]

Oscar and I personally feel he and Mosley are tied 1 win each in their head to head fights.

[robjr]

mosley. cuz some of oscars wins were losses

[Lazy Liberal]

Well, here is the facts. I think these two are similar and really have no sided oppinion as non of these are or were at any point and time my favorite fighters dispite both being great sluggish fighters. Put that and of a first view mosley > hoya if you just look at win and number of fights. Boxrec says:

Oscar De La Hoya: W 38 (30 ko's) | L 5 | D 0 | Total 43

Shane Mosley: W 44 (37 ko's) | L 4 | D 0 | Total 49

As for quality of opposition, a very important factor (and this is where people can desagree and it gets complicated):

Oscar De La Hoya:

Mayweather Jr.
Bernard Hopkins
Felix Sturm
Shane Mosley
Fernando Vargas
Arturo Gatti (just because he was a champion)
Felix Trinidad
Ike Quartey
Julio Cesar Chavez (chavez was 36 but take nothing away from DLH)


Shane Mosley:
Vernon Forrest
Fernando Vargas
Oscar De La Hoya
Ronald Wright
Jose Luis Cruz
Manuel Gomez

This a light comparison. Shane Mosley has a better record, but much worse quality of competition (this is my oppinion). I value more quality of opposition than the numbers in a record (those can be deceiving) and if this was the end of it Oscar would win this comparison. However he lost in the direct confrontation (twice) and thus i declare it a tie to be fair to both great (but not my favorites!) fighters.

For ODLH you forgot Oba Carr(probably the best never to win a belt)
Genaro Hernandez -undeafeated when he fought ODLH
Tough Wilfredo rivera who gave Whitaker fits in two fights
and even though there are some weak names in his resume like Kamua, Charpentier they were actually ranked in by Ring magazine for what it's worth.

Mosley-Take away Gomez and Cruz and add a competent Philip Holiday.
I think everyone makes excellent posts

[Hydro]

For ODLH you forgot Oba Carr(probably the best never to win a belt)

Let's not exaggerate things. Carr was a good solid fighter.

No need to overrate him.

[oldgringo]

Let's not exaggerate things. Carr was a good solid fighter.

No need to overrate him.

I was just about to say this. I can't even remember the best fighter Carr beat before he fought Oscar...? Frankie Randall?

I'm pretty sure that a couple of Oscar's contemporaries had beaten Carr thoroughly before Oscar got to him as well.

Carr was a talented fighter, but he was limited...and he hardly showed anything after dropping Trinidad in a spirited, albeit losing effort.

[Lazy Liberal]

Let's not exaggerate things. Carr was a good solid fighter.

No need to overrate him.

You're probably right , it was a slight exaggeration but if he hadn't fought Quartey , Trinidad,or OLDH in the era he fought them he'd be champ today.

[Hydro]

I was just about to say this. I can't even remember the best fighter Carr beat before he fought Oscar...? Frankie Randall?

I'm pretty sure that a couple of Oscar's contemporaries had beaten Carr thoroughly before Oscar got to him as well.

Carr was a talented fighter, but he was limited...and he hardly showed anything after dropping Trinidad in a spirited, albeit losing effort.

The only guys that officially beat Carr before Oscar did were Trinidad (8th round stoppage) and Quartey (MD that should have been UD). Bramble lost a decision to Carr when Carr was only like 19 or 20, but it's considered a robbery.

[fatpom]

DLH has one of the best resume's of all time on paper. The fine print doesn't look so good for him though. On paper also routinely being the material his world titles have been made of.

[Lazy Liberal]

Since I asked this question , Mosley has lost to Cotto and Oscar has lost to Floyd. Your thoughts,please.