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  • oldgringo
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    #11
    I think he's hot and cold. Sometimes he'll give a round to a fighter and it makes me question why humans are allowed to walk the earth. for instance he gave Jirov round 6 of the fight with Toney....a round in which Toney was landing at will and was clowning Vassiliy.

    Other times he'll come out with cards that make sense to me. He's hit or miss.

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    • shawn_
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      #12
      I think that might be partial correct. If you listen to Harold read the score card, sometime you can hear it in the inflection in his voice. He just sounds like. Wow I am reading the most rediculous thing ever. And sometimes he sounds very unsure of himself when he is reading his scorecard.

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      • CletusVanDamme
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        #13
        I think him and me where the only ones watching the Pavlik fight concerning other posters. I had Kelly winning a blowout. So Harold is class.

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        • prince21
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          #14
          I have to agree with the first post.

          it was on boxing after dark card where I saw a mini-doc on Harold Lederman
          they said that he takes off the HPs so he is not influenced by the commentators.

          Yet, I caught many and I mean many instances, where, when he is givin us the scorecard in the begining a round, he gives response to what the broadcast team said in the previous round. that means that either its BS that he takes the HeadPhones off or he is sitting within lestening distance.

          Basically (and I have checked) he responds to comments in the previous rnds (and not just the beginning) when he should have had the Headphones off.

          Feel me, if you dont, this is the best I can say it

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          • Kayjay's Ghost
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            #15
            Originally posted by CletusVanDamme
            I think him and me where the only ones watching the Pavlik fight concerning other posters. I had Kelly winning a blowout. So Harold is class.
            One of the judges actually had Miranda up after five. It's a good thing Kelly got the KO, because HBO had some bribe-money involved apparently.

            Seriously HBO are more corrupt than Don King these days. But they bring us the fights so I'll live with it.

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            • CletusVanDamme
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              #16
              Originally posted by prince21
              I have to agree with the first post.

              it was on boxing after dark card where I saw a mini-doc on Harold Lederman
              they said that he takes off the HPs so he is not influenced by the commentators.

              Yet, I caught many and I mean many instances, where, when he is givin us the scorecard in the begining a round, he gives response to what the broadcast team said in the previous round. that means that either its BS that he takes the HeadPhones off or he is sitting within lestening distance.

              Basically (and I have checked) he responds to comments in the previous rnds (and not just the beginning) when he should have had the Headphones off.

              Feel me, if you dont, this is the best I can say it
              I have noticed as well and figure he is in listening distance. Since I have seen fighters respond to HBO commentators, so they must be talking loudly. Been Ringside for Fox Sports Ndou fight and I couldn't hear them. HBO must be yelling.

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              • CletusVanDamme
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kayjay's Ghost
                One of the judges actually had Miranda up after five. It's a good thing Kelly got the KO, because HBO had some bribe-money involved apparently.

                Seriously HBO are more corrupt than Don King these days. But they bring us the fights so I'll live with it.
                Pavlik would have been robbed if he would have taken the advice of Lewis and got on his bike and jabbed. Good thing he didn't get off the gas petal or it would have been terrible for him. HBO had to much riding of Miranda for him to lose. Total garbage and yes HBO is not beyond corruption.

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                • Steak
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                  #18
                  Lederman is, for the most part, pretty right. A lot of the time when I disagree with him on rounds, theyre usually very close ones that could go either way...not everyone agrees on those.

                  rarely though, he throws out rounds that are completely off and im sit there just thinking...hmm, he mustve been getting a beer or something.

                  He, overall, does a pretty good job though.
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                  Last edited by Steak; 02-11-2011, 04:14 AM.

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                  • Technical_Skill
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    I disagree with Harold Lederman to the point I think the guy is part of a conspiracy, or on a different planet at times..

                    - Do you agree with Harold Lederman's scoring generally?

                    - What do you think of this guy?
                    You know what he tends to have the same scores i have, i dont mind his scoring, but recently its been getting poor, with the Barrera Marquez fight he scored, dunno how he had that one for barrera, he must have been watching something else, i think he had De La Hoya mayweather 116-112 mayweather tho, which is fair, even though i had 117-111 floyd.

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                    • bigdlb12
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                      #20
                      sometimes I do agree and others I dont, about 90% he pretty much hits it on the button

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