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  • GunStar
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    #31
    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
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    Originally Posted by Gunstar1
    Care to explain how he's a coward and will not face anyone in their prime??

    Most of his wins comes against guys in their prime
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    Most of his 130-135 wins YES... agreed...
    All of his 140 and upward wins NO...With the exception of maybe Judah.. who has still never been able to make his talent work for him..

    It's like Floyd is stuck in 2002.. and all his fights since then have been against guys whose last good days were 2002...

    Take Oscar or Mosley for example.. Fighting these guys today is kinda pointless.. he had a chance 5 years ago when they AND him were both at the top of their games.. Now he is still at the top of his game.. But Oscar and Shane aren't..

    Another fine example is Felix Trinidad...Why fight a guy who is retired??
    When you can fight a fresh facsimile who is undefeated?(Cotto)

    Then I hear an Argument about Paul Williams and Him being the guy who will beat Mayweather.. but that ..THAT fight is still 2 years away.. and then IT WONT BE FAIR FOR FLOYD BECAUSE HE WILL BE 32..!!!!

    Can You not see the Hypocracy????
    Both Mosley and Hatton turned down Floyd, Cotto was also not ready, so the only guys that would've fought Floyd is Margarito. So who he fights then???

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    • GunStar
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      #32
      Originally posted by Shanus
      You missed my point entirely, Tito is damaged goods, I'm not comparing anybody to Hopkins or Winky.
      Tito is damaged goods at 160 against Hopkins and Wright, not againts guys like Cotto, Hatton or Margarito.

      I will favor Tito over any of those guys today.

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      • Shanus
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        #33
        Originally posted by Gunstar1
        Tito is damaged goods at 160 against Hopkins and Wright, not againts guys like Cotto, Hatton or Margarito.

        I will favor Tito over any of those guys today.
        But how can you when they are 2-3 weight divisions apart?

        That's a fantasy match up and completely out of the equation.

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        • James78
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          #34
          Originally posted by Gunstar1
          Actually he's retired now, so the only 2 fights that can make him big money is Oscar or Tito.
          yeah right, he's about as retired as Hopkins was.

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          • Welter_Skelter
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            #35
            Originally posted by Gunstar1
            Both Mosley and Hatton turned down Floyd, Cotto was also not ready, so the only guys that would've fought Floyd is Margarito. So who he fights then???
            If Floyd is NOT retiring.. then he should not call out guys who are.. or should be..
            What I am saying is.. There are plenty of fresh Fighters he can face.. who can present the same challenges that the OLD guys can... The example I use is.. Cotto Trinidad one.. why fight the old hard hitting PR guy when you can Fight the Young hard hitting PR guy???

            DO you really think a fight against Trinidad at this stage is worth anything??
            Its been Done..

            But Cotto it hasn't.. And dont give me the Cotto is not experinced enough argument.. he is a world champ.. at about the same Age Floyd was.. and Cotto is Undeafeted

            You still haven't Answered the Hypocracy question..
            It seems to me..There is one set of Rules For Floyd and another for everyone else..

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            • GunStar
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              #36
              Originally posted by James78
              yeah right, he's about as retired as Hopkins was.
              True!!!!!!!!!

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              • guzi815
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                #37
                The only future HOF'ers that Floyd fought are DLH, Castillo, and Zab. Other than that, Floyd NEEDS big names on his resume. 10 or 15 years from now people will say Floyd didn't beat anyone. But throw in Trinidad, De La Hoya, Mosley, for sure HOF'ers, and Floyd's resume is MUCH more deserving of an ATG. I said it before and i'll say it again....Mayweather "MUST" fight....

                1. Hatton
                2. Cotto
                3. Mosley
                4. Margarito
                5. Williams (in 2 years)

                He must "BEAT" all, and convincingly, then will he be known as an ATG.

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                • Welter_Skelter
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                  #38
                  Mayweather has Fought 3 guys who had an 0 in their L column
                  2 of them were 0-0-0 and the Other was Diego Coralles..

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                  • GunStar
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                    If Floyd is NOT retiring.. then he should not call out guys who are.. or should be..
                    What I am saying is.. There are plenty of fresh Fighters he can face.. who can present the same challenges that the OLD guys can... The example I use is.. Cotto Trinidad one.. why fight the old hard hitting PR guy when you can Fight the Young hard hitting PR guy???

                    DO you really think a fight against Trinidad at this stage is worth anything??
                    Its been Done..

                    But Cotto it hasn't.. And dont give me the Cotto is not experinced enough argument.. he is a world champ.. at about the same Age Floyd was.. and Cotto is Undeafeted

                    You still haven't Answered the Hypocracy question..
                    It seems to me..There is one set of Rules For Floyd and another for everyone else..
                    You didn't get my point, you see you called Floyd a coward, I asked you who he ducked.

                    Mosley turned down Floyd last November, Hatton already turned down Floyd twice, Cotto was not ready, that leaves us to Margarito, the only man that would've fought Floyd, but casual fans don't know who Margarito is.

                    So the fact is Floyd never ducked anyone of these guys.

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                    • BmoreBrawler
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                      #40
                      Floyd wants to follow in the footsteps of his Idol and superior in every way Oscar de la Hoya and just take big money marketable fights. Its that simple. He would rather sit on pseudo retirement like Oscar and take big money/hype fights.

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