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  • #81
    googler go kill yourself please

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    • #82
      Why dont you stop posting here? Your comments are not wanted. You have an education of a child.

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      • #83
        Wikipedia is not a credible source.

        Don't believe everything you read on the internets.

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        • #84
          Nickman give me one example. You are just talking out of ur ass man. All the facts that are not true in wikipedia are eventually taken off the site. Of course you wouldnt know this.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Googler View Post
            Nickman give me one example. You are just talking out of ur ass man. All the facts that are not true in wikipedia are eventually taken off the site. Of course you wouldnt know this.
            those were written by armenians , i can bring 10 links that prove otherwise.

            wikipedia c'ant keep up with everything.

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            • #86
              hey Demiturk the facts which I am bringing up are not arguable. They are universally accepted by Turkish scholars as well. So take notes and stop using very broad counters. You are an example of how the Turkish youth think.

              Give me credible website that say the three Pashas werent tried for the Armenian Massacres and that Lemkin didnt coin the term genocide while having in mind what the turks did to the Armenians.

              Please if you dont know much about the topic you should learn before you try to argue with me. And please dont bring up McCarthy since he is a joke of a professor. His arguments are much like yours, broad and very vague without any first hand evidence.

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              • #87
                there isn't even a consenus about how many armenians were killed !

                For nearly a century, the Western World has wholeheartedly accepted that there has been an attempt by the Ottoman Turks to systematically destroy the Armenian people, comparable to what the ****s committed upon the ***s during World War II. Many Armenians who have settled in America, Europe and Australia (along with other parts of the world, known as "The Armenian Diaspora") have clung to the tragic events of so long ago as a form of ethnic identity, and have considered it their duty to perpetuate this myth, with little regard for facts... at the same time breeding hatred among their young. As descendants of the merchant class from the Ottoman Empire, Armenians have been successful in acquiring the wealth and power to make their voices heard... and they have made good use of the "Christian" connection to gain the sympathies of Westerners who share their religion and prejudices.

                Turks characteristically shun propaganda, and have chosen not to dwell on the tragedies of the past, forging ahead to build upon brotherhood — not hate. This is why the horrifying massacres committed upon the Turks, Kurds and other Ottoman ******s by Armenians have seldom been heard. When such reports are heard, Westerners can be callously dismissive... Turkish lives are apparently as meaningless to them as Indian lives were to most early Americans.

                (The following is an excerpt from Dr. Leon Picon, reviewing the book, "THE ARMENIAN FILE"):



                How successfully the Turks could have warded off the resultant stigma through counter-propaganda will never be known. But it is certain that in 1922 Sultan Mohammed Vl put it quite succinctly and pointedly, when he told the American writer E. Alexander Powell:

                “If we sent one, your newspapers and periodicals would not publish an article written by a Turk, if they published it, your people would not read it, if they read it, they would not believe it. Even if we sent a qualified person to America, to convey to you in your language, the Turkish point of view, would he find an impartial audience?” [Gurun, File, p. 37]


                It's amazing that whenever the "Armenian Genocide" is referred to in Western media, journalists seem to fall all over themselves in presenting the perspective totally from the Armenian propaganda machinery. Whenever there is an attempt to present "the other side," the passage is usually preceded by "The Turkish Government claims..." Keeping in mind we all know how dishonest spokespeople from any government can be. (And reinforcing the erroneous view that only the Turkish Government objects to the Armenian version of history.)

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                • #88
                  No person of Turkish heritage would accept what the Turkish Government has to say about this issue, as the final word. Just like no person of Armenian heritage should care about what the Armenian side has to say. What every person needs to do is look at the facts. If there were REAL proof of government- sponsored evil planned against the Armenians, a people who peacefully lived with and prospered beside the Turks for over five centuries, it would be Turks crying out against such horrors before most everyone else... one's humanity and integrity should ideally supersede loyalty to one's ethnic tribe.

                  What Dr. Joseph Goebbels, **** Minister of Propaganda, swore by is unfortunately very true: If you tell a lie... especially a big lie... enough times, people will believe it. The often told "Armenian Genocide" tale... a tale told hardly with any opposition in nations sympathetic to the "Christian" Armenians... has been so ingrained within people's belief systems that any attempt to shed light on the actual truth is often violently rejected. Why, everyone knows those Turks were bloodthirsty savages!


                  "Give a lie twenty-four hours start, and it will take a hundred years to overtake it." (C.F. Dixon-Johnson, British author of the 1916 book, "The Armenians," appalled over the deceitful practices of his book's subject.)

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                  • #89
                    its not just , justin mcarthy

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                    • #90
                      Condemnation without hearing both sides is unjust and un-American"
                      Arthur Tremaine Chester, "Angora and the Turks," The New York Times Current History, Feb.1923

                      There is no crime without evidence. A genocide cannot be written about in the absence of factual proof."

                      Henry R. Huttenbach, history professor who appears to support the Armenian viewpoint exclusively, as do... curiously... nearly all so-called "genocide scholars"; The Genocide Forum, 1996, No. 9



                      This entire Armenian genocide claim is as bogus as a three-dollar bill and (they) know it!

                      Judge Sam Weems

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