Pavlik will beat Miranda

[Pantera2000]

short, potent punches beat wild, sloppy punches every time.

pavlik by KO.

Thanks for the education... I always thought there was more to a science to boxing. Thanks for making it so easy to figure it out.

[TheEvilSaint]

Thanks for the education... I always thought there was more to a science to boxing. Thanks for making it so easy to figure it out.

glad i could help. every miranda fan needs it.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

allan green did indeed have the shorter puches, but he didnt throw them.

true, but if he did he might have, no probably would have gotten KO a lot earlier. I hope Pavlik does throw more punches to make the fight exciting, but if he does he will get a rude awakening.

[EliteSoldier]

you guys bet points with each other or with someone then

[TheEvilSaint]

true, but if he did he might have, no probably would have gotten KO a lot earlier. I hope Pavlik does throw more punches to make the fight exciting, but if he does he will get a rude awakening.

im not saying miranda cant win. pavlik has a considerable height, size, skill and technique advantage. not to mention he and miranda are the two hardest punchers in the division.

[Pantera2000]

im not saying miranda cant win. pavlik has a considerable height, size, skill and technique advantage. not to mention he and miranda are the two hardest punchers in the division.

Pavlik has the height and text book technique advantage.
Miranda has the reach, SIZE (weight) and heart. He is far from text book, but his unconventional style will throw off any text book fighter.

[TheEvilSaint]

Pavlik has the height and text book technique advantage.
Miranda has the reach, SIZE (weight) and heart. He is far from text book, but his unconventional style will throw off any text book fighter.

respectivly, what makes you think miranda has more heart than pavlik? what situation have they been in that makes you so sure of miranda's heart and/or doubt pavlik's heart?

p.s. pavlik's reach is 75", miranda's is 76.5". but pavlik is 4.5" inches taller, so id have to say that the reach advantage goes to pavlik.

[Pantera2000]

respectivly, what makes you think miranda has more heart than pavlik? what situation have they been in that makes you so sure of miranda's heart and/or doubt pavlik's heart?

p.s. pavlik's reach is 75", miranda's is 76.5". but pavlik is 4.5" inches taller, so id have to say that the reach advantage goes to pavlik.

Nobody can prove the heart thing, I just don't see it in Pavlik like I do in Miranda. Miranda is 6' to Pavlik 6'3". Reach is close enough to call it even. The big difference is Pavlik has been fighting guys who are smaller, shorter, with little reach. He has never seen someone like Miranda before. It will be very interesting to see how he handles this early in the fight.

[TheEvilSaint]

Nobody can prove the heart thing, I just don't see it in Pavlik like I do in Miranda. Miranda is 6' to Pavlik 6'3". Reach is close enough to call it even. The big difference is Pavlik has been fighting guys who are smaller, shorter, with little reach. He has never seen someone like Miranda before. It will be very interesting to see how he handles this early in the fight.

boxrec says miranda is 5'11" and pavlik is 6'3.5", im just going by what they say.

you're right that pavlik has fought smaller, shorter guys and he has never faced anyone like miranda.

but think of it like this: pavlik is so big, almost everybody he faces will be smaller and shorter than him. and besides, theres not really anybody whos anything like miranda.

[Gareth Ivanovic]

boxrec says miranda is 5'11" and pavlik is 6'3.5", im just going by what they say.

you're right that pavlik has fought smaller, shorter guys and he has never faced anyone like miranda.

but think of it like this: pavlik is so big, almost everybody he faces will be smaller and shorter than him. and besides, theres not really anybody whos anything like miranda.

Your right in everything you say about Pavlik. The thing Is that even though I am a Miranda fan I agree there will probably be somebody someday that will expose him, I just don't think its going to be Pavlik.