Boxing’s All Mixed Up In Martial Arts

[moy22487]

I was around many people this past Saturday watching the fight and the majority said they did not really enjoy the fight or "It was boring." Some were casual fans and others were true fans of the sport. It is weird seeing things die down while another is started to take the big stage. It is like the difference between seeing Soft **** and hardcore ****: once you see somebody slam that ass, you do not go back to the slow pace stuff.

MMA is on the rise, no question about that.

I have stated before that in ancient Greece, boxing was big, but the sport that surpassed it was Pankration, similar to MMA.

People want to see violence, pain, blood, victory and defeat.

Maybe if there were more fights like Gatti vs. Ward boxing would still be at the top or on the same level, but not many fights like that take place, at least not with the level of skill at least a Gatti has.


This really sucks; I am not a big fan of MMA. I just cannot stand how quick a fight can be stopped, most fighters are not that coordinated with their hands, a lot of holding and touching each other on the floor, etc.
I will give the fighters this; Fighters seem to be better now/more well rounded at a higher level today then prior, making fights better.


I would like to see boxing lower the size of the gloves, at least back, to what they used to be prior to Vegas increasing them. I would not even mind seeing Heavyweights use 8oz "Reyes", and the rest under HW use 6oz.


I do not want to hear the nonsense that "Die Hard" boxing fans should never prefer another sport (like MMA) to boxing because that is BULL****.
It would be like me trying to stick with "Ford" for cars just because they are "American", even though they suck. If a Japanese car is better, flashier, go with that.








I also wonder this, when will the MMA fighters start to demand big money. Right now some are getting paid OK, but they should be getting a lot more based on their numbers.
Somebody needs to make a move.


Boxing also better make some changes and stop increasing glove size because nobody once to see a boring fight of "tag your it" or sparring matches.


This sucks, I want a Prime Tyson back.

pankration is no longer here boxing is

[GunStar]

I posted on another forum about how whether you believe Lampley or you don't it was a ****** thing to say. You had a boxing bout that was the biggest hyped fight in at least the last 5 years. It did not live up to the hype, although IMO it was a good fight, just not a spectacular one that people hoped for. So after the fight did not match the hype, Lampley was ****** enough to give boxing's biggest competition FREE publicity to MILLIONS of people. It's like the old saying goes, 'all publicity is good publicity'.

I've never seen you post anything about boxing, the only time I see you post is when we have a MMA topic.

[GunStar]

i don't understand how anyone can find ufc exciting/entertaining, they fight like men for a few seconds before tumbling to the floor and humping the **** out of each other for the duration of the fight.

That's why I'm not a fan of MMA or UFC, I see too many fat sweaty guys rolling around the floor and one tapping out just like WWF!

At least WWF is fun to watch but I just don't see anything great about MMA or UFC, the fights are extremely short to.

[1bad65]

Just to humor you I'll reply. I watch both, but I admit more MMA. I usually go to a buddy from my gym's house for FREE MMA shows. He has a huge TV and usually BBQ. He rarely orders boxing PPVs. I've actually not ordered an MMA PPV in years. In that time I've ordered a few boxing ones. The last 2 Tyson fights(don't laugh, I grew up watching him), The last 2 Toney fights too. And the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight, which I think Floyd won. I have FoxSports, so I get to see alot of bigger fights for free, just weeks later, like Malignaggi-Cotto. I've seen Jesus Chavez fight in person, when he fought that Thai guy, as it was in Austin where I live. I don't watch as much boxing as before, not because I don't like it but because back in the day it all used to be free. Tuesday Night Fights, HBO, Wide World of Sports all had championship fights. Now most are PPV.

I've cornered guys I train with many times in MMA and admittedly only once in boxing. I train both, but honest I'm better on the ground. Being 35, I'm not as fast as I used to be, and the ground game is slower.

Another thing I prefer MMA on is the matchups. Generally huge matchups happen, its a smaller sport still. I've always wished Tyson had fought Lewis in the early 90s. Don King ****ed that up. All the various ABC belts, managers, promoters have all hurt the sport IMO. The best no longer fight the best, and its not the fighters fault.

That good enough for ya?

[GunStar]

Just to humor you I'll reply. I watch both, but I admit more MMA. I usually go to a buddy from my gym's house for FREE MMA shows. He has a huge TV and usually BBQ. He rarely orders boxing PPVs. I've actually not ordered an MMA PPV in years. In that time I've ordered a few boxing ones. The last 2 Tyson fights(don't laugh, I grew up watching him), The last 2 Toney fights too. And the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight, which I think Floyd won. I have FoxSports, so I get to see alot of bigger fights for free, just weeks later, like Malignaggi-Cotto. I've seen Jesus Chavez fight in person, when he fought that Thai guy, as it was in Austin where I live. I don't watch as much boxing as before, not because I don't like it but because back in the day it all used to be free. Tuesday Night Fights, HBO, Wide World of Sports all had championship fights. Now most are PPV.

I've cornered guys I train with many times in MMA and admittedly only once in boxing. I train both, but honest I'm better on the ground. Being 35, I'm not as fast as I used to be, and the ground game is slower.

Another thing I prefer MMA on is the matchups. Generally huge matchups happen, its a smaller sport still. I've always wished Tyson had fought Lewis in the early 90s. Don King ****ed that up. All the various ABC belts, managers, promoters have all hurt the sport IMO. The best no longer fight the best, and its not the fighters fault.

That good enough for ya?

Yea OK that sounds good enough, now please start posting a little about boxing, not just MMA topics!

[MBL]

I love MMA, the match ups are awesome, anyone can win or lose and theres some exciting knockouts
I love boxing because I always have, I watch K1 also because its fast paced and the competition is so even
theres more than just boxing out there for combat sports fans
I refuse to argue over which is better because there all completely different sports, I know Babe Ruth would have ****** bad at cricket just as I know Floyd Mayweathwer isnt cut out for MMA

[realheavyhands]

i don't understand how anyone can find ufc exciting/entertaining, they fight like men for a few seconds before tumbling to the floor and humping the **** out of each other for the duration of the fight.

not all of them fight like that tho .. that **** is gay tho.. anderson silva tho is a phenominal striker

[1bad65]

Yea OK that sounds good enough, now please start posting a little about boxing, not just MMA topics!

I'll try. Like I said, I rarely miss an MMA card, but I do miss some boxing cards. Alot of the guys I watched when I was younger are retired, or in Toney's case, should be I like watching some up and comers, Allan Green comes to mind, though his last few fights after Codrington he did not look good. I try to keep an eye on Brian Vera, he's from Austin, but he has fought on TV a time or two. I saw him fight once here in town too. He has skills, if he is managed well he could go far.

It still bothers me you say MMA is fake. Like I said, I've seen firsthand some nasty injuries. And some of them happened to guys I train with. That you say that does upset me alot, but I admit it does.

[1bad65]

not all of them fight like that tho .. that **** is gay tho.. anderson silva tho is a phenominal striker

And Silva is a Black Belt in BJJ too. He may well hold that belt for awhile.

[realheavyhands]

And Silva is a Black Belt in BJJ too. He may well hold that belt for awhile.

yea hes a monster.. i think he fights on the ground a little too much