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  • Benny Leonard
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    Save Boxing: Smaller Gloves, Smaller Ring

    MMA is where it is because people want to see Knockouts, not sparring (like in boxing).

    The gloves that Oscar and Floyd were wearing could not have been 8oz gloves as they used to. Vegas are responsible for increasing the glove size. Funny since Vegas allow MMA to wear those tiny little gloves.


    Anybody know what size gloves Dempsey, Jack Johnson, Louis, Robinson, Pep, etc. were wearing?
    Glove Size per era, per weight class, anybody know?



    I do remember seeing fights with Marciano and even Foreman wearing 8oz gloves.
    Even one match with Ali when he fought some German person (or I think he was German), the gloves he was wearing looked small, almost reminded me of bag gloves.
    Tyson even had at least one fight with 8oz gloves.

    I am tired of the big sparring gloves being worn: Too many people can just sit there and block ala Winky Wright.
    This is the other problem: gloves should fit like a fist, not like a pillow, wide and puffy.


    Boxing should decrease ring size a bit so that you cannot run all over the place. Enough room for someone to get out of the way, but not enough to run a marathon.


    I want to see boxing step its game up to compete with MMA.
    The downside to MMA, in my opinion, is the boring ground attacks/grappling. Not many seem to have the skill set in their hand attacks as elite boxers, although I admit it is harder for them to "master" when they have to be well rounded in everything.


    I am not saying Heavyweights should wear 4oz gloves, but 8oz gloves would be nice, with lower weight divisions wearing 5-7 (which I am not even sure they make odd number oz gloves, but somebody should consider it if they could).
    "Reyes" glovs should only be worn or at least make sure all the gloves fit a standard of measurement with how thick/puffy they are. Kind of like how Hockey measures the Goalie's leg pads.
  • werewolf
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    #2
    Don't know how much the old-timers gloves weighed but gloves have become bigger and softer in recent years. I agree with you, and your idea for decreasing the size of the ring is also good I think, not for heavies but for the lighter weights.

    A downside to MMA in my opinion is the leg kicks. They are causing a lifetime of leg problems. MMA might not have suffered many fatalities, but I think it is causing an enormous amount of chronic leg injuries.






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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #3
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
      MMA is where it is because people want to see Knockouts, not sparring (like in boxing).

      The gloves that Oscar and Floyd were wearing could not have been 8oz gloves as they used to. Vegas are responsible for increasing the glove size. Funny since Vegas allow MMA to wear those tiny little gloves.


      Anybody know what size gloves Dempsey, Jack Johnson, Louis, Robinson, Pep, etc. were wearing?
      Glove Size per era, per weight class, anybody know?



      I do remember seeing fights with Marciano and even Foreman wearing 8oz gloves.
      Even one match with Ali when he fought some German person (or I think he was German), the gloves he was wearing looked small, almost reminded me of bag gloves.
      Tyson even had at least one fight with 8oz gloves.

      I am tired of the big sparring gloves being worn: Too many people can just sit there and block ala Winky Wright.
      This is the other problem: gloves should fit like a fist, not like a pillow, wide and puffy.


      Boxing should decrease ring size a bit so that you cannot run all over the place. Enough room for someone to get out of the way, but not enough to run a marathon.


      I want to see boxing step its game up to compete with MMA.
      The downside to MMA, in my opinion, is the boring ground attacks/grappling. Not many seem to have the skill set in their hand attacks as elite boxers, although I admit it is harder for them to "master" when they have to be well rounded in everything.


      I am not saying Heavyweights should wear 4oz gloves, but 8oz gloves would be nice, with lower weight divisions wearing 5-7 (which I am not even sure they make odd number oz gloves, but somebody should consider it if they could).
      "Reyes" glovs should only be worn or at least make sure all the gloves fit a standard of measurement with how thick/puffy they are. Kind of like how Hockey measures the Goalie's leg pads.
      Ok professor.. you share your INFINITE wisdom with the rest of us intellecual mortals..

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      • Benny Leonard
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        No problem

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        • Run
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          #5
          Man I just don't know.

          These guys throw rapid enough punches with ridiculous amounts of snap on them as it is wearing the 8 or 10 or whatever ounce gloves.

          I think that would cause a lot of deaths from trauma, because I'm from the school that believes fighters nowadays are just superior to their old time counterparts who did in fact fight bare fisted.

          Case and point look at all the physical specimens fighting each other. Sports science has evolved too far to take any type of training wheels off........because the bike would go way faster than anything ever before.



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          • EliteSoldier
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            #6
            Could you imagine what would of happen to jaidon if allan green had lighter gloves??? Dude would be ****ing dead... Probably the same with vitali vs danny williams.

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            • Animal Squabbs
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              #7
              Originally posted by werewolf
              Don't know how much the old-timers gloves weighed but gloves have become bigger and softer in recent years. I agree with you, and your idea for decreasing the size of the ring is also good I think, not for heavies but for the lighter weights.

              A downside to MMA in my opinion is the leg kicks. They are causing a lifetime of leg problems. MMA might not have suffered many fatalities, but I think it is causing an enormous amount of chronic leg injuries.






              ww


              Id rather have a ****ed up leg than be dead or brain damaged.

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              • manosdepiedra10
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                the punch of a boxer is harder than MMA, a lot harder, and if they used smaller gloves i think it would be a lot of people that would be marked for life, look at wilfredo gomez, he cant even talk, look at burgos the last guy darnichyan (i dont know if its spelled correctly) he was in a coma, with smaller gloves there would be a lot of more boxers dead or crazy.

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                • Southpaw16
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                  #9
                  Boxing has been around for longer, that is why the glove sizes are what they are. Once MMA has a death in a competition, I hate the thought of it but it will happen eventually, if it is from punching the small gloves are gonna be the first thing to go under the microscope and increased. As far as making the rings smaller, I disagree. Footwork is an important part of boxing. This is a sport, and we have to keep all possible elements of athleticism. A lot of the great champions of all-time and most popular fighters ever have had footwork as the biggest part of their game. Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Pep.

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                  • Run
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                    #10
                    Boxers just hit too damn hard to lighten up the gloves.

                    They spend their day working on focus punching, hitting bags in rhythm, shadowboxing, and doing body weight excersises that directly influence their punching ability.........forget it.

                    In mixed martial arts punching is just one of a million things people train for, and they aren't specialists in doing it at all.

                    It's like giving those pro paintballers real guns.....**** someone's gonna die for sure I think.



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