How good is Pacman really?

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  • sancho
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    How good is Pacman really?

    I live in a heavily mexican populated area and they hate pacman. they say he's never beaten anyone except an old morales and they ALL say he lost to castillo. i get a very biased view of pacman from the people around here, i was just wondering what you guys think? who has pac beat in their prime? how good is pac really, is he #2 p4p?
  • Mike_Dee
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    #2
    Wow.....your question really shows how ******ed you and your "heavily mexican populated area" are.

    Castillo? Okay......

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    • Boxicologist
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      #3
      Castillo? Pac has KO'd 3 of his last 4 fights.

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      • SnoopySmurf
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        #4
        You mean Marquez? And not Castillo, right?

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        • loui_ludwig
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          #5
          Originally posted by sancho
          I live in a heavily mexican populated area and they hate pacman. they say he's never beaten anyone except an old morales and they ALL say he lost to castillo. i get a very biased view of pacman from the people around here, i was just wondering what you guys think? who has pac beat in their prime? how good is pac really, is he #2 p4p?
          Its up to you to decide. Downloads his fights and watch it.

          Against Sasakul, he was the underdog and won his first title. Same thing with Ledwaba.

          Pac dominated MAB.

          Against JMM it was a draw. Some Pac fans says he won, but haters and JMM fans says JMM won. Some says Pac was outbox cuz JMM his one of the best technical fighter out there, even better than MAB or EM. JMM out technique Pac but as far as for punches landed, it was about even. The result was a draw. An error by one of the judge in the 1st round about the 3 knockdowns cuz that error. If it was corrected right, then a split decision win to Pac. Lederman had Pac winning by 115-111 and Merchant had Pac by close decision. I don't know who Steward was scoring it for but my guess is to JMM cuz Steward attracts more to techinical boxer. As far as the media, some has it for Pac, some has it for JMM. We can argue about the fight who was the winner but it remains that it is a draw. A rematch can only decide who is the best among the 2.

          Against Erik Morales, Pac lost the 1st fight by UD and it was consider a candidate for Fight Of The Year. Did the gloves affect his punching power? Probably. Did the cut bother him in the rest of the fight? Yes. But even with that, u can't take away EM's win over Pacman. On Morales next fight, he lost to Zahir. It was a suprise/shocking win cuz Raheem is supposed to be a tune up match. But Raheem mostly run away in order to win by decision. Raheem hit EM that send Erik to the ropes but did nothing to try to finish it. This fight was at 135. The 2nd fight, EM dominated the early rounds but Pac was landing straight lefts and punches to the body. At the 6th round, Pac then took over. In the trilogy, Pac won when after the final knockdown in the 3rd, Morales shook his head.

          EM might be past his prime but can Juarez, Valero, Guzman, Mosquera, or Barrios can do what Pac did to EM.

          Against Larios, Pac dominated the fight. Even though Larios needed to moved up 2 weight divisions to fight Pac, Larios was a top 10 in most of the world rankings, including the Ring mag, in the jr. featherweight division.

          Against Solis, after the cut, Pac became more aggressive leading to a ko. Solis also moved up in weight but he as ranked #8 in the featherweight division.

          But like i said, wathc his fights and u decide.

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          • McNulty
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            Pac is far from a sound fighter...I had him in the realms of Mayorga up until a 2 years ago. Pac does have a true fighters spirit. Dude is strong, tough, and can hit. His skills arent top shelf but getting there.

            JMM will win the rematch...hopefully.

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            • bestboxingonly
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              #7
              you could ask morales, jmm, barrera and solis on this or waht they have to say

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              • Chipper
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                #8
                Your mexican friends hate pac-man because he KOs their favorite fighters.

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                • sancho
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mike_Dee
                  Wow.....your question really shows how ******ed you and your "heavily mexican populated area" are.

                  Castillo? Okay......
                  hey, i never said i didn't see him as #2, i definitely think he is P4P one of the best. i am a pac fan and catch a lot of **** from people around here because of it, i just wanted to see if they don't like him because he beats all the mexican fighters, or if there was some logic to their cases against him.

                  so, go **** yourself you inbred ***got.

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                  • Katz
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickman949
                    Your mexican friends hate pac-man because he KOs their favorite fighters.
                    ..................

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