Pavlik may get KOed in the 1st round.

[TheEvilSaint]

It's easy to explain. Jeff Lacy fought tough competition before fighting calzaghe, Miranda fought tough competition before reaching this stage of his career. Pavlik hasn't... WOW, pavlik knocked this dude named zertuche out who hade 4 losses on his record before pavlik got to him. Now, Zertuche has 5 losses.

Pavlik better be getting paid a pretty penny against Miranda because this is his last big fight he'll ever probably get.

ok, so since previous competition is everything, then i guess pavlik will lose. after all, since he never fought anybody any good, by your rationale pavlik sux. yeah, i guess power, skill, technique, stamina, and all that other stuff means jack **** if you havent fought a top 10 fighter.

that makes a whole ton o sense...

[K-Nan]

ok, so since previous competition is everything, then i guess pavlik will lose. after all, since he never fought anybody any good, by your rationale pavlik sux. yeah, i guess power, skill, technique, stamina, and all that other stuff means jack **** if you havent fought a top 10 fighter.

that makes a whole ton o sense...

No point in wasting text on the dude.

[bishop2006]

Pavlik better be getting paid a pretty penny against Miranda because this is his last big fight he'll ever probably get.

Whats with all this last big fight bull****?im a huge Miranda fan but ur going on like hes got George Foreman power,and he leaves u in a coma or something,Pavliks 24 and young,hes got nice boxing skills and very hard power,if he chooses to box he can win,i hate all these threads like MIRANDA KO1 TAYLOR and **** like that,cumon man,just because Pavlik aint fought top 10 fighters dont mean he cant win,skills pay the bills as Floyd would say

[Hitman932]

Whats with all this last big fight bull****?im a huge Miranda fan but ur going on like hes got George Foreman power,and he leaves u in a coma or something,Pavliks 24 and young,hes got nice boxing skills and very hard power,if he chooses to box he can win,i hate all these threads like MIRANDA KO1 TAYLOR and **** like that,cumon man,just because Pavlik aint fought top 10 fighters dont mean he cant win,skills pay the bills as Floyd would say

youre screwed tryin to talk sense to these guys

obviously youre a paul williams fan, as am i

these guys are just like anyone who says margarito KO williams in 1

guys could say all the same things about paul these guys are saying about pavlik...

"fought weak comp, good opponents were undersized, gets hit too much, blah blah blah"

bottom line is these guys are the real deal, williams and pavlik are both going to prevail even despite the genius logic being displayed by miranda fans

[EliteSoldier]

That zab judah ***** guy is annoying as hell stalking me on topics. He took everything I said out of context. I said Inkin wouldn't be as **** as manfredo, thats what I basically said. And I said undefeated fighters aren't that bad, unless they are protected like sven ottke. This is my last response on this topic, because that ***** keeps following me on topics. But like everyone else, I've already stated I don't really want Calzaghe to fight inkin. I want him to fight Kessler.

[Knicksman20]

Actually you're reading comprehension skills are ridiculous. I am comparing the situations not the fighters. Fact is Mosley never fought anyone anywhere near Oscars level while Oscar fought some great fighters. Did it matter? No, Mosley still won.

This is what you wrote: Originally Posted by valdosta:
"Mosley had never fought anyone NEARLY as good as Oscar the first time they fought and what happened there?"

Your comprehension of your own post is so far off you that don't even know what you implied. Comparing Mosley's situation at LW with Pavlik's at Middle is not only flawed, it's downright ******. Mosley was ALREADY A CHAMPION. He DEFENDED is title about 7 TIMES ALL BY KO. Mosley was ALREADY considered a top 10 P4P fighter BEFORE he fought DLH. Pavlik is a not only untested, he's an unknown, not a champion, has feasted on Jr. Middle's, & his comp hasn't been good enough to guage how good he really is. Their situations are TOTALLY different because you had one boxer who was already recognized as a top fighter.

[Pantera2000]

I got 16,600 points. You gonna cover all of them?
And by the way, no **** I cant prove it jackass. That is why it is called an opinion. You have every right to argue it. I will be very very happy to take your points.

Yo Hitman?????? What happenend man? I thought you were gonna put your 'money' where your mouth is. You gonna cover me or not??????

[Pantera2000]

Yo Hitman?????? What happenend man? I thought you were gonna put your 'money' where your mouth is. You gonna cover me or not??????

crikets.....crikets.....

[Hitman932]

crikets.....crikets.....

yeah man, you got it, just tell me what i gotta do, ive never bet points before, as i stated previously

[Pantera2000]

yeah man, you got it, just tell me what i gotta do, ive never bet points before, as i stated previously

After Miranda destroys Pavlik you transfer 16,000 points to me.
And if hell freezes over and Pavlik pulls out a win, I'll do the same.