Pavlik may get KOed in the 1st round.

[Cutthroat]

Why is everybody saying Pavlik has more power than Miranda? Unless Pavlik can break someone's jaw I won't beleive Pavlik hits harder. Someone said Howard Eastman didn't punch hard, well here is his record: W 42 (35 ko's) 4 losses.

I'll let the fight speak for itself, I doubt Pavlik could win. He could catch Miranda with a couple of good punches and KO him, but Miranda has a pretty good chin.

[EliteSoldier]

Why is everybody saying Pavlik has more power than Miranda?.

No one said that except complete morons who come to this topic and like to suck white fighters ****s. Pavlik's opponents aren't even comparable to Miranda's opponents. Abraham would have killed pavlik, Allan Green would probably beat Pavlik aswell. Only way I become a Pavlik fan is if he is able to win. Not likely.

[Chipper]

Time to earn some easy points.

OK how many delusional Pavlik fans want to bet points on this fight?

I'm putting up 12k on Miranda.

[valdosta]

Why is everybody saying Pavlik has more power than Miranda? Unless Pavlik can break someone's jaw I won't beleive Pavlik hits harder. Someone said Howard Eastman didn't punch hard, well here is his record: W 42 (35 ko's) 4 losses.

I'll let the fight speak for itself, I doubt Pavlik could win. He could catch Miranda with a couple of good punches and KO him, but Miranda has a pretty good chin.

Broke a guys jaw and still lost. Breaking a guys jaw don't mean you are a great puncher. Is Eric Harding a great puncher because he broke Tarver's jaw? Knocking out Willie Gibbs don't mean much to me either. That guy is crap. Pavlik's KO of Zertuche is more impressive to me than any of Miranda's KO's.

[EliteSoldier]

That guy is crap. Pavlik's KO of Zertuche is more impressive to me than any of Miranda's KO's.

Zertuche gave Pavlik problems in that fight before Pavlik was able to knock him down. And I think Pavlik gave Zertuche has 5th loss. So, Pavlik fought a bunch of fighters who already had a bunch of losses on their pro record before he got to them. While, Miranda has beaten undefeated fighters.

[Chipper]

Well of course Pavlik is going to look good KO'ing nobodies, then he wonders why it's taken so long for him to get a chance at a title shot.

The Abraham fight should have been a 5th round TKO, but the corrupt German boxing officials let it continue. That's why the IBF has ordered a mandatory rematch against Miranda. But Miranda isn't going to sit around and wait for Abraham's jaw to heal. Miranda is going to keep fighting whoever he needs to fight so he can get at Taylor.

[valdosta]

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The ref in round 5 definantely messed up. He gave way to much time not knowing what he was doing. However, Abraham was allowed to continue and I did agree with that decision.

In Pavliks last 4 fights, 3 of those guys had never been KO'ed. Well until Pavlik stopped them. Great fighters? Nope but they were very tough.

[Cutthroat]

Broke a guys jaw and still lost. Breaking a guys jaw don't mean you are a great puncher. Is Eric Harding a great puncher because he broke Tarver's jaw? Knocking out Willie Gibbs don't mean much to me either. That guy is crap. Pavlik's KO of Zertuche is more impressive to me than any of Miranda's KO's.

Lmfao, you know Miranda is a great puncher. Anyone who has eyes knows Miranda is a great puncher. He was able to wobble Green while throwing a short right hook just standing still and even walking back (NO POWER FROM HIS LEGS in those punches), it took him 1 punch to wobble Gibbs, 1 hard punch to break Abraham's jaw, 1 punch to take down Eastman who has never only been KO'd that 1 time in his career, THAT is how you know he has great power. Miranda's record is there, you've seen his ripped body, you've seen his right hand it's sick as ****.

Abraham got a gift in that fight just like so many other german fighters do fighting in their hometown. Ala Sven Ottke.

He doesn't need to beat down opponents overtime to KO them, he can land 5 shots in a round all jabs and still need 1 punch to wobble (if it doesn't land all the way clean) his opponent. No Middleweight or SMW can hit as hard as Miranda period.

[valdosta]

Keep telling yourself that when Pavlik knocks him out. Miranda is a good puncher but not great. He never really wobbled Abraham despite breaking his jaw. He did stop EAstman but that was SEVERAL punches not 1. WTF were you watching? EAstman is pretty much washed up anyways. He struggled even with Evans Ashira. Gubbs? Yeah he has a glass jaw. Abraham won fair and square whether or not anyone likes it or not. Miranda isn't the killler that a lot of you wish he was.

[CottoOverrated1]

hey check this out, people with common sense have entered the thread, notice all the pantera backing is constantly coming from the same 3 or 4 nearsighted nuthugging fans..

"first round knockout... blah blah blah foot up the ass blah blah blah... pantera was pooor and homeless so hes tough blah blah blah pantera is sooooo coool blah blah blah

i think pavlik will do the same, he can easily outbox miranda, easily

i repeat, miranda has gone the distance in 5 of his last 8 fights... which tells you that he has no idea hoiw to properly administer his highly overrated power

naw that tells me miranda can go the distance. I'd be more worried if he knocked everybody out beofre the 6th round.