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  • DA1CATAS
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    #11
    Originally posted by EliteSoldier
    If I was a fighter, I'd want to be the underdog. So, you can prove everyone wrong.


    When I fight they'll never make me the underdog... they'll already know whassup.

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    • niceguy45
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      #12
      Originally posted by EliteSoldier
      Mayweather isn't invincible. Just ask Castillo, he shoved mayweather around the first fight they had with each other. Castillo should have gotten the decision, but Castillo definitely lost in the rematch. If Castillo can do it, why can't Oscar? And I don't want to hear any excuses about floyd complaining about how his arm was hurt and thats the only reason Castillo was able to punish him in the first fight. Excuses, excuses, if he was so badly hurt I'm pretty sure they could have post-poned the fight. If Oscar does beat floyd, you know how many excuses floyd will have. Something was wrong with my arms, my hands. blah,blah,blah... Who ever loses better take it like a man and not make excuses
      thank you, oscar is man he took all 4 loses like a man, i def. don't want to hearany excuse from floyd, with the weight, gloves, right hand,
      cuz i knowif he wins, who would stand his mouth running

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      • Sin City
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        #13
        Originally posted by DA1CATAS
        But He's not ... know why?

        Mayweather is...
        Undefeated
        *Oscars been knocked out* Lost 4 times at that. and twice to the same guy. Should be 5 if you count the Felix sturm Fight obviously. Has also been Given a fight here and there. Has defeated all his Big opponents AFTER trinidad did it for him.He's 3 years senior. Has a failing singing career lol..just funny. He's slower in every division of the Word. ........that should feed you a while.


        Wanna bet on ya mexican lover to win?
        I don't see why being undefeated is a legit reason for why someone is gonna win.. Saying that is ******ed. Everyone is undefeated.. UNTIL THEY LOOSE. It's not out of the question to see Floyd loose this one, Oscar doesn't have the best chance but then again he doesn't have the worst. Plus being undefeated doesn't mean **** when the level of opposition has been weak.. especially over the last few years!

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        • DA1CATAS
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          #14
          When someone is undefeated for so long its apparent that the skill level and plan to beat him must be great.

          And when Good opponents can't even scratch the surface (corrales-Judah- and the champs of the past he beat..which people just ****in forget about like he didnt take it to them) That means not onlymust the plan and skill be great.. the Person must be great in their own right. sorry to Say Oscar is not great. Sturm jabbed his way to a Win over oscar- you know that already. Hopkins put him down with a body shot and he pounded the floor instead of getting up....Sweet Pea beat him also... He ran from tito for the remainder of the fight like a ***** ..he even admits that....Shane mosely should have gave him a trilogy but Oscar couldn't hold up his end of the deal in either fight.

          He has heart. thats his biggest weapon.
          Headmovement and footwork will decrease the chance of his left hook though it will STILL be a factor.

          And speed wise I'm sorry but in all areas of the word he is slower than mayweather.

          I'm sorry but Oscar just looks Reallly Good. Not Great.
          Last edited by DA1CATAS; 04-21-2007, 02:35 PM.

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          • msagrain
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            #15
            delahoya is my favet 2 win

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            • DA1CATAS
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              #16
              Originally posted by EliteSoldier
              You're in better shape then oscar and floyd if thats you in that pic. You'd probably kill both of em. I know you're probably in a heavier weight class but you look in better shape period. Well, in my opinion. Btw, I don't know... It's kind of hard to judge by a picture. For all I know you could move as slow as Jeff Lacy, and be as predictable as him... btw, are you a pro? Do you have any videos you can upload of any of your fights?
              I'm fighting at 165... So yea im bigger and stronger.. but Oscar either matches me or is faster than me in speed.. and mayweather I dont even gotta say.
              lol They most likely .. actually they definately have more stamina..I'd def lose by points if we had an Ex.Fight lol... Naaa im not pro im gonna finish my teaching degree...

              Imma upload a training video in an hour. My next fight in May 19.. dont have any on the comp right now.. all tapes.. but i have a lil sparring with my new DV camcorder
              Last edited by DA1CATAS; 04-21-2007, 02:41 PM.

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              • tito yuca
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                #17
                Originally posted by dino
                pound for pound, skill wise mayweather is better then de la hoya, but de la hoya has fought at 154 serveral times, he's also fought against much bigger more powerful men then mayweather, quartey trinidad vargas, mayweather should be the underdog in the fight
                I agree with dino to an extent - Mayweather is the favorite because of his unbelievable skill. He is so talented that even when he does an unnatural step up in class he is the favorite, and that speaks highly of him. However, Oscar should be the favorite because of his experience at 154 and his size. I know Mayweather is gonna beat him, but to me, that just says what an exceptional fighter he is, because a lil cat like him has no business being in 154, and that why Oscar should be the favorite. The thing is that Floyd is so good that it's damn near impossible for him not to be the favorite against anyone.

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                • Gio
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tio Chema
                  I don't see why being undefeated is a legit reason for why someone is gonna win.. Saying that is ******ed. Everyone is undefeated.. UNTIL THEY LOOSE. It's not out of the question to see Floyd loose this one, Oscar doesn't have the best chance but then again he doesn't have the worst. Plus being undefeated doesn't mean **** when the level of opposition has been weak.. especially over the last few years!
                  I strongly agree with this. Let's face in Floyd hasnt exactly been fighting the best.

                  Either way, i hope to see a great fight, i really hope Floyd doesnt run.

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                  • gixxer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DA1CATAS
                    Your mother would make up excuses if floyd lost.. People just don't see floyd losing.

                    37-0 how do you beat that? Is oscar really all that special. Because floyd is. Hand speed is great. Footwork is great. Record is great. Ring generalship is Great. Stamina is great. combinations are great. Jab is Great. Head movement Great. Defense Great.

                    Hmm one thing I dont know for sure... CHIN??????? Great?
                    ok .......we all know who a mayweather nut hugger is................just callin it how read it

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                    • Sin City
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DA1CATAS
                      When someone is undefeated for so long its apparent that the skill level and plan to beat him must be great.

                      And when Good opponents can't even scratch the surface (corrales-Judah- and the champs of the past he beat..which people just ****in forget about like he didnt take it to them) That means not onlymust the plan and skill be great.. the Person must be great in their own right. sorry to Say Oscar is not great. Sturm jabbed his way to a Win over oscar- you know that already. Hopkins put him down with a body shot and he pounded the floor instead of getting up....Sweet Pea beat him also... He ran from tito for the remainder of the fight like a ***** ..he even admits that....Shane mosely should have gave him a trilogy but Oscar couldn't hold up his end of the deal in either fight.

                      He has heart. thats his biggest weapon.
                      Headmovement and footwork will decrease the chance of his left hook though it will STILL be a factor.

                      And speed wise I'm sorry but in all areas of the word he is slower than mayweather.

                      I'm sorry but Oscar just looks Reallly Good. Not Great.
                      Sturm and Hopkins are natural Middleweights.. De La Hoya fattened into the devision, That doesn't mean he has the body of one. It was obvious De La Hoya couldn't hurt neither one of them because of the size.. Same will happen with Floyd in this fight. And yeah Oscar looked horrible vs Sturm but he was using a totally different style against a bigger dude.. You cant just switch styles mid career.
                      Whitaker I feel he lost too.. But look at Floyd.. Judah is not a great, This is a guy who got KTFO in the second rounf by Tszyu.. Tszyu made that fool dance!! And also ran from Baldomir who is really nobody! I give him the fight with Corrales and Castillo.. But that was at lightweight and past light weight he hasn't really done ****! You criticize Oscar for fighting the best.. Okay who has Floyd beat at welter... an old Gatti and a fighter with a 10 percent knock out rate.. okay buddy!

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