What's amazing to me....

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

There are so many boxers in the USA and so many of them are the same weight as the average grown man, between 160 and 168 pounds.... and if you look at the rankings the absolute best 168 opounders in the world are listed withhardly any Americans even near the top.

[satori555]

americans are fatasses the average american boxer weighs 350 pounds and collapses after 3 jabs

[THE REAL NINJA]

americans are fatasses the average american boxer weighs 350 pounds and collapses after 3 jabs

Yet again we ruled the sport for the last 100 years so I guess us fat american boys arn't so bad after all.

A lot of it has to do with there not being as many gyms around now a days .
Out here in Rockford there is only 1 legit boxing gym that I know of and it's kind of just outside of the city which is to far to walk for some people .

The other part of it is te same old story about people are now playing football and basketball instead of boxing.
As much as I love boxing I think I would rather have my son playing the 'safe' sports first .

[Shanus]

There are so many boxers in the USA and so many of them are the same weight as the average grown man, between 160 and 168 pounds.... and if you look at the rankings the absolute best 168 opounders in the world are listed withhardly any Americans even near the top.

That's the weight of the "average" man, not the weight of the "average" man in shape.

[eazy_mas]

well there are people who are more hungery in title and money and been in circumstance that many arent so it motivates him to fight better in beging of his career because in boxing and L mean you go back and dont get the big payday money

[Technical_Skill]

There are so many boxers in the USA and so many of them are the same weight as the average grown man, between 160 and 168 pounds.... and if you look at the rankings the absolute best 168 opounders in the world are listed withhardly any Americans even near the top.

Got to say that your threads are very interesting.

[deuce_drop]

Yet again we ruled the sport for the last 100 years so I guess us fat american boys arn't so bad after all.

A lot of it has to do with there not being as many gyms around now a days .
Out here in Rockford there is only 1 legit boxing gym that I know of and it's kind of just outside of the city which is to far to walk for some people .

The other part of it is te same old story about people are now playing football and basketball instead of boxing.
As much as I love boxing I think I would rather have my son playing the 'safe' sports first .

yeah with the availability of making huge money right out of high school or college in other sports it's easy to see why guys would go that route instead of boxing.

a lot of american fighters were poor from the inner city and had to fight their way out of the ****** in order to make it, but now they can do that with basketball, baseball, or football. those sports were there back in the day but i know for a fact that even in the 70's and early 80's guys that played sports had jobs in the off season, some had car dealerships, resturants, sold insurance, but that has changed in sports, now you can become a millionaire right at the moment of signing your name on the dotted line.

that being said the rest of the world has still been producing fighters where as in the US it is slowly dwindling, sad to say.

[THE REAL NINJA]

yeah with the availability of making huge money right out of high school or college in other sports it's easy to see why guys would go that route instead of boxing.

a lot of american fighters were poor from the inner city and had to fight their way out of the ****** in order to make it, but now they can do that with basketball, baseball, or football. those sports were there back in the day but i know for a fact that even in the 70's and early 80's guys that played sports had jobs in the off season, some had car dealerships, resturants, sold insurance, but that has changed in sports, now you can become a millionaire right at the moment of signing your name on the dotted line.

that being said the rest of the world has still been producing fighters where as in the US it is slowly dwindling, sad to say.

That and a lot of them are turning to drugs .
They can deal and make good money or they get hooked on them like Tarver did .
There's no telling how much better he could have been if he had spend those years in the gym instead of on the streets. I'm sure he lost a lot more 'prime' years then he will ever know.

[PunchDrunk]

Well, if you look at the amateurs, the Americans have definitely been on the slide compared to the 70'ies and 80'ies. When they had the World Cup tournament in 2005 (where each country has 11 fighters fight 11 from the opposing country), Russia beat USA 11-0. I don't think that would have happened in the 80'ies (and back then Russia had Kasaksthan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, and abunch of other countries with strong fighters) fighting under their flag as well.
I think it all starts withthe amateurs. that's where the talent is recruited and developed, and it seems these countries are doing much better nowadays, than the US. I predict even more top pro's being developed from the old soviet republic in the future.

[BrooklynBomber]

Well, if you look at the amateurs, the Americans have definitely been on the slide compared to the 70'ies and 80'ies. When they had the World Cup tournament in 2005 (where each country has 11 fighters fight 11 from the opposing country), Russia beat USA 11-0. I don't think that would have happened in the 80'ies (and back then Russia had Kasaksthan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, and abunch of other countries with strong fighters) fighting under their flag as well.
I think it all starts withthe amateurs. that's where the talent is recruited and developed, and it seems these countries are doing much better nowadays, than the US. I predict even more top pro's being developed from the old soviet republic in the future.

Thats interesting, but really comes to different boxing philosophy. In America, people start boxing with the aim to become professional because they come from lower social classes and dont have another opportunities to make it big. In russia, although going up the ladder of social classed is also a reason, people take up boxing because boxing is considered to be an ''honor'' sport there. Kids from all social classes would take up boxing would be enrolled, many of them not even dreaming to become a prizefighter, for them to win a city or state championship(am) is the biggest achievement. But nonetheless, boxing is on the rise there now, with so many premier fighters being from ex Soviet Union.