guzman would pound pacquiao's ass!!

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  • Superman RJJ
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    #61
    This fight is one of the best match up`s out there but when a focused Pacquiao is ready to do battle there is no one apart from maybe Mayweather that trains as well and it`s as my old trainers always say it`s in the gym you win the fights

    Pacquiao by Big TKO

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    • JOM'S
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      #62
      one thing good being a pacman fan almost everytime he fight a named opponent, ON PAPER he will get his a_s handed down, but as we see it everytime we see PAC has outperformed these NAMED opponents ...

      I wont argue how the fight will end up but would say that PAC-GUZMAN would be a very good to GREAT match-up ...

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        #63
        Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
        u seem to be answering your own argument. u respect him but u keep saying barrios who? .... u sound like a hypocrit.
        We are in an argument. Now you state Guzman will pwn PAC and I ask you to state why, all you can present me is the name of Barrios who got an ass handing from Freitas, then you better try harder.

        Now if you can't present anymore credible arguments, you better put up dude. PAC's resume are all-time p4p greats and his tuneup fights are against Larios and Solis. Now give me a named opponent that Guzman has. If not then put up.

        Guzman is a good fighter, gotta respect that. But to state Guzman will pwn PAC the p4p king without stating your basis, Man! Try to think harder why it's going to cost you. That's not hypocrisy dude, that's just plain common sense.
        Last edited by Joartcc3; 04-17-2007, 02:54 AM.

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        • Joartcc3
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          #64
          Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
          for everyone saying state a credible argument blah blah blah we've guzman suppporters have done that already. he has fast hands, great defense, slick boxing style, rock hard chin, and incredible stamina. if u dont agree fine but dont tell me im wrong and then tell me to give u "more" credible reasons. thats y i think he can beat him regardless of his past resume. what was pac's resume b4 beating barrera? beating up some pinoys and ledwaba? u people seem to forget that upsets can happen. and this wont be that much of an upset. alot of people think guzman will beat pac. as much as u hate to realize it, its more possible than jmm beating pac again.
          I have my arguments and I have my basis. Now that I've got you cornered you go blabbering excuses and spitting nonsense here and there, better try harder dude.

          And in the future, try not to make arguments in which you can't answer pertinently. It will take more than your usual blabberings in order to cement a good point.

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          • miron_lang
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            #65
            Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
            for everyone saying state a credible argument blah blah blah we've guzman suppporters have done that already. he has fast hands, great defense, slick boxing style, rock hard chin, and incredible stamina. if u dont agree fine but dont tell me im wrong and then tell me to give u "more" credible reasons. thats y i think he can beat him regardless of his past resume. what was pac's resume b4 beating barrera? beating up some pinoys and ledwaba? u people seem to forget that upsets can happen. and this wont be that much of an upset. alot of people think guzman will beat pac. as much as u hate to realize it, its more possible than jmm beating pac again.
            When PAC was a teen ager he kayoed a Thai Regional Champion ( South aSIA )
            When he was 19 he kayoed the then undefeated thai HERO in Chachai Sasakul

            and then Ledwaba.

            by this point PAC accomplishment is already comparable to the current record of Guzman.


            PAC hits so much harder than Guzman
            PAC has FaSTer hands than Guzman

            PAC will be able to land on guzman at will. you can criticize about his awkward style but pls look at the numbers. the connect percentage againts solis is 32% and he doesnt look as good compared to the morales fight.

            Roach didnt train him, and he train in fewer weeks compared to his normal training schedule.


            Guzman will put up a good fight. thats all.

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            • SalvaDominicano
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              #66
              Originally posted by Joartcc3
              I have my arguments and I have my basis. Now that I've got you cornered you go blabbering excuses and spitting nonsense here and there, better try harder dude.

              And in the future, try not to make arguments in which you can't answer pertinently. It will take more than your usual blabberings in order to cement a good point.

              i just gave u my reasons. can u read??? am i lying about what he can do?

              what r my excuses? that he has fast hands, slick style, great conditioning? No, those are facts. Get used to them.
              Last edited by SalvaDominicano; 04-17-2007, 03:11 AM.

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              • SalvaDominicano
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                #67
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                When PAC was a teen ager he kayoed a Thai Regional Champion ( South aSIA )
                When he was 19 he kayoed the then undefeated thai HERO in Chachai Sasakul

                and then Ledwaba.

                by this point PAC accomplishment is already comparable to the current record of Guzman.


                PAC hits so much harder than Guzman
                PAC has FaSTer hands than Guzman

                PAC will be able to land on guzman at will. you can criticize about his awkward style but pls look at the numbers. the connect percentage againts solis is 32% and he doesnt look as good compared to the morales fight.

                Roach didnt train him, and he train in fewer weeks compared to his normal training schedule.


                Guzman will put up a good fight. thats all.
                when did i criticize his style? and thats all great but where are those so called asian champs now? they never faced a threat outside of the phillipines and thailand so they sound good having the title "champion" but manny knocked them out when he was 19 and is a lot better now. doesnt say much about them.

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                • Joartcc3
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
                  i just gave u my reasons. can u read??? am i lying about what he can do?

                  what r my excuses? that he has fast hands, slick style, great conditioning? No, those are facts. Get used to them.
                  What reasons? Barrios? Try harder dude. And to what do you base your arguments? Sure Guzman has fast hands. But can he do 10 punch combo bombs in under 3 sec? I bet he can't.

                  Fast hands = PAc

                  KO power? Since when? Since stepping up the plate he has yet to KO any named opponent. He merely outboxed a slow Barrios.

                  Power - PAc

                  PAC throws 80-90 punches easy in every round if need be. He doesn't tire and doesn't slow down and even when he suffered a gruesome cut against Morales in the 1st fight, he still fought and never slowed down. Now can Guzman top that? I bet he can't.

                  Conditioning - let's say it's equal.

                  As for style. PAC is a southpaw who doesn't play it pretty. What better slick style are you looking for.

                  Try harder dude. You're just blabbering again.

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                  • Sin City
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Joartcc3
                    The question is... ur really gay aren't you?
                    who the hell is this noob? great, another tard like xcarrot or somewhere along those lines.. get some posts before you talk to me.

                    Anyway if anyones gonna beat Pac right now its gonna be Guzman or JMM. No one else out there stands a chance.

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                    • SalvaDominicano
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Joartcc3
                      What reasons? Barrios? Try harder dude. And to what do you base your arguments? Sure Guzman has fast hands. But can he do 10 punch combo bombs in under 3 sec? I bet he can't.

                      Fast hands = PAc

                      KO power? Since when? Since stepping up the plate he has yet to KO any named opponent. He merely outboxed a slow Barrios.

                      Power - PAc

                      PAC throws 80-90 punches easy in every round if need be. He doesn't tire and doesn't slow down and even when he suffered a gruesome cut against Morales in the 1st fight, he still fought and never slowed down. Now can Guzman top that? I bet he can't.

                      Conditioning - let's say it's equal.

                      As for style. PAC is a southpaw who doesn't play it pretty. What better slick style are you looking for.

                      Try harder dude. You're just blabbering again.
                      okay lets see...

                      throwing 10 punch combos wont help u when u r getting countered all day. and even so.. watch a video of guzman training and u will see he can be just as fast as pac.

                      a win is a win. whether it be by decision or by KO. he does have power. enough power to keep a huge lightweight who came down to super featherweight at bay. he kept attacked freitas more than he attacked guzman and freitas was throwing BOMBS so just cuz he dont KO people doesnt mean he cant punch and with the way pac comes in dont be surprised to see him get countered with a bomb from guzman.

                      conditioning i will give that to pac but i dont guzman laying over just cuz he's tired.

                      the southpaw style is hard to overcome but guzman aint some bum. he has a lot of experience, hes crafty, hasnt been in many wars, and is still hungry. anything can happen.

                      now that i explain that will u stop crying? do i need to explain anything else???
                      Last edited by SalvaDominicano; 04-17-2007, 03:49 AM.

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