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  • Joartcc3
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    #101
    Originally posted by Super Cartel
    **** man i just got called a snowball
    By nelson the dude... lol




    How is saying Marquez would beat Manny the ****** in a rematch the same has i can Ko king kong man im not gonna even finish it.
    I will have a quarter though of what your smoking cuz its good ****..
    What are u on about laying down proff and all this claim ****e what are
    u waffling on about?

    Claim what prove what??

    Anyone would think Manny the ****** knocked Marquez out in rd 1 the way your talking proper jock sniffers man..
    Listen im a boxing fan you sound just a manny fan see logic
    past mannys dodgy fringe for a second..Im a fan of manny and Marquez
    but i believe if theres a rematch then Marquez is gonna own that ass
    Is that all you can say? Where's your proof aside from your own opinions?

    Since stepping up the plate everybody knows he has yet to KO a named opponent. And yet you claim he will absolutely pwn PAC. Where's the logic man. Power is undeniable when you KO an opponent, that much cannot be refuted. Yes he has the speed and slickness. PAC has fought slick and fast before but without power, he will simply walk over you.

    Marquez still stands as the guy who can beat PAC. By this time, it is a already given that without power PAC will just walk over you, and Guzman since stepping up in weight seems to lack it. I may be wrong but basing on his last few fights, he has yet to KO an opponent,

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    • Super Cartel
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      #102
      Marquez dosent have to KO manny to win the fight?
      Manny and Marquez on skill level Marquez is heaps way ahead of him..
      Rustico Torrecampo didnt have much power and he OWNED manny
      Medgoen Singsurat neither both sparked manny out in the 3rd Rd..
      Manny gets away with his mistakes through having so much power..
      I dont believe Marquez will outright OWN manny i just think he will beat him,,
      Guzman as the topic title says Would Pound his ass lol

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      • Joartcc3
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        #103
        Originally posted by Super Cartel
        Marquez dosent have to KO manny to win the fight?
        Manny and Marquez on skill level Marquez is heaps way ahead of him..
        Rustico Torrecampo didnt have much power and he OWNED manny
        Medgoen Singsurat neither both sparked manny out in the 3rd Rd..
        Manny gets away with his mistakes through having so much power..
        I dont believe Marquez will outright OWN manny i just think he will beat him,,
        Guzman as the topic title says Would Pound his ass lol
        Ha? And how do you define skills then? I want to know. For me skills mean having the fastest hands in boxing and most power. Jabs against PAC is useless coz of his southpaw style. Now if that isn't skills, I dont know what is.

        And you said it yourself, Manny get in the way of his mistakes because very few would like to trade with him. And most would rather duck and weave rather than counter. By this time you should already know that trading with PAC is the fastest route to a KO.

        Now getting back to the topic, you have yet to present basis as to why Guzman will pwn PAC.

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        • niceguy45
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          #104
          Originally posted by Joartcc3
          Is that all you can say? Where's your proof aside from your own opinions?

          Since stepping up the plate everybody knows he has yet to KO a named opponent. And yet you claim he will absolutely pwn PAC. Where's the logic man. Power is undeniable when you KO an opponent, that much cannot be refuted. Yes he has the speed and slickness. PAC has fought slick and fast before but without power, he will simply walk over you.

          Marquez still stands as the guy who can beat PAC. By this time, it is a already given that without power PAC will just walk over you, and Guzman since stepping up in weight seems to lack it. I may be wrong but basing on his last few fights, he has yet to KO an opponent,
          i think imo guzman is just not ready to face an opponent like pacquiao yet

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          • SalvaDominicano
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            #105
            Originally posted by Joartcc3
            Ha? And how do you define skills then? I want to know. For me skills mean having the fastest hands in boxing and most power. Jabs against PAC is useless coz of his southpaw style. Now if that isn't skills, I dont know what is.

            And you said it yourself, Manny get in the way of his mistakes because very few would like to trade with him. And most would rather duck and weave rather than counter. By this time you should already know that trading with PAC is the fastest route to a KO.

            Now getting back to the topic, you have yet to present basis as to why Guzman will pwn PAC.
            its so funny how blind u r. since when is power a skill? a fat guy has power. for pac its a blessing. your argument right there doesnt even make sense. having great defense is a skill. pac's right hand is a skill. if u want to present an argument please do it right. "try harder dude".

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              #106
              Originally posted by Super Cartel
              Marquez dosent have to KO manny to win the fight?
              Manny and Marquez on skill level Marquez is heaps way ahead of him..
              Rustico Torrecampo didnt have much power and he OWNED manny
              Medgoen Singsurat neither both sparked manny out in the 3rd Rd..
              Manny gets away with his mistakes through having so much power..
              I dont believe Marquez will outright OWN manny i just think he will beat him,,
              Guzman as the topic title says Would Pound his ass lol
              very sad but true. manny got KO'ed by people with worse resume's, skills, and power than guzman. but it will never happen again... or will it?

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              • Joartcc3
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                #107
                Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
                its so funny how blind u r. since when is power a skill? a fat guy has power. for pac its a blessing. your argument right there doesnt even make sense. having great defense is a skill. pac's right hand is a skill. if u want to present an argument please do it right. "try harder dude".
                Do it right? Lols Its funny that you only appeared now that our argument earlier has subsided. But then I will remind it to you.

                A vid was posted by Alibata earlier and it concerns PAC and Guzman on separate vids. Before you talk to me raising a new point dude, go back a few posts and answer my arguments to you first.

                Don't play dumb dude. You purposely ignored evidence and now you raise new arguments without answering old ones. Try harder dude. Answer my points first that I raised to you before you talk to me about new issues.

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                • Joartcc3
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
                  very sad but true. manny got KO'ed by people with worse resume's, skills, and power than guzman. but it will never happen again... or will it?
                  Do you know the story behind those defeats? I bet you don't. And until you do research it first before your arguments overturn against you. Try harder.

                  Beliefs without basis and proper arguments mean nothing.

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                  • Joartcc3
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by niceguy45
                    i think imo guzman is just not ready to face an opponent like pacquiao yet
                    These guys are ridiculous. They just see a man who's a bit fast and slick and then easily claim that he will pwn PAC. When will they ever learn. A lot of so-called "experts" have eaten crow time and time and time again and it seems these guys are the new breed.

                    I've said it before. Fast and slick won't be enough to beat PAC. Playing it pretty will only get you figured out. Giving PAC the initiative is the worst gameplan a boxer can do. Power and pain is the only way to discourage PAC. Morales has already shown that when he defeated PAC the first time. Push PAC back and you win. Lay back and play it pretty and ul get figured out and destroyed.

                    JMM still is the best guy to beat PAC. He posseses the speed and quickness plus the power and boxing skills to hurt and beat PAC. Boxing skills aint enough to beat PAC at this point that he has reached his prime. How can you outbox a guy who has the fastest hands in boxing today? That's plain and basic common sense.

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                    • Super Cartel
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                      #110
                      Boo hoo hoo thats all im hearing now,,.
                      You are falling into the "Im a stalker" type fan of manny now m8...

                      Since when is power a skill? hehehe
                      ya man up top beat me to it what a classic...
                      So that already shows the level of conversation were having here...

                      Why isnt it allowed for me to believe that Marquez could beat Pacman
                      in a rematch? When u get ur back up and start chatting crazy ****e you
                      start to sound like a serial cheerleader...

                      . A lot of so-called "experts" have eaten crow time and time and time again and it seems these guys are the new breed.
                      So now were experts 2? lol Im no where near the level of an expert
                      Ive just watched boxing my whole life and love the sport why are u trying to make out that im some sort of Manny hata? Im not a hata im a fan but im
                      not blind to facts..
                      I really believe Marquez can beat manny..

                      Now getting back to the topic, you have yet to present basis as to why Guzman will pwn PAC.
                      ****ing hell a minute ago it was present a basis as to why i think Marquez will own him im starting to think im on Blue peter here

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