De la Hoya vs Mayweather weigh in

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • jai mari078
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jun 2006
    • 2935
    • 82
    • 0
    • 9,440

    #11
    Originally posted by mrdlazar
    On Paper you are right,however I think a lot of people may be suprised how much pop he does carry, and once the body gets attacked the head will be open. I think a lot of people are looking at the Baldomir fight where Floyd played it safe because Roger was not there....What says U ?
    To get close to Oscars body that will mean he will have to come in and take punishment himself. He will be close enough for Oscar to get off and I don't think he is willing to do that. Its not just the baldomir fight, he didn't show any power against Judah. Judah had the skills to beat Mayweather he just can't ever mentally put it together to capitilize. Mayweather hasn't shown pop for a while now. I'm not comparing Vargas or mayorga to Floyd but they are both big punchers and Vargas was the bigger man against Oscar. Vargas landed some big shots to Oscars body and head and was not able to put him down. If those two guys couldn't do it you are not gonna convince me that Floyd will. Also I don't see Floyd surprise anyone power wise at 154, I do think some people will be surprised to see how the weight will effect him.

    Comment

    • deliveryman
      Your token white guy
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Mar 2006
      • 7592
      • 362
      • 178
      • 15,510

      #12
      Originally posted by mrdlazar
      On Paper you are right,however I think a lot of people may be suprised how much pop he does carry, and once the body gets attacked the head will be open. I think a lot of people are looking at the Baldomir fight where Floyd played it safe because Roger was not there....What says U ?
      I'm a Floyd fan, and I "says" you ******ed.

      Comment

      • deliveryman
        Your token white guy
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Mar 2006
        • 7592
        • 362
        • 178
        • 15,510

        #13
        Originally posted by jai mari078
        To get close to Oscars body that will mean he will have to come in and take punishment himself. He will be close enough for Oscar to get off and I don't think he is willing to do that. Its not just the baldomir fight, he didn't show any power against Judah. Judah had the skills to beat Mayweather he just can't ever mentally put it together to capitilize. Mayweather hasn't shown pop for a while now. I'm not comparing Vargas or mayorga to Floyd but they are both big punchers and Vargas was the bigger man against Oscar. Vargas landed some big shots to Oscars body and head and was not able to put him down. If those two guys couldn't do it you are not gonna convince me that Floyd will. Also I don't see Floyd surprise anyone power wise at 154, I do think some people will be surprised to see how the weight will effect him.
        Judah did eat some pretty hard righthands.

        And I do believe if Judah didn't practically run for his life the entire second half of the fight, and didn't resort to low-blowing when he was really hurt, he would of been stopped.

        Comment

        • mrdlazar
          Amateur
          Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
          • Feb 2007
          • 19
          • 1
          • 0
          • 6,067

          #14
          I must be......But dont believe the hype about De La Hoya......He will Fall, and I doubt he will pressure floyd as much as people think he will......Ill be Mr Retarted until May 6th.....Ha Ha

          Comment

          • jai mari078
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jun 2006
            • 2935
            • 82
            • 0
            • 9,440

            #15
            Originally posted by deliveryman
            I'm a Floyd fan, and I "says" you ******ed.
            Theres not many Floyd fans i respect because the y seem to lack the ability to be objective, but I have respect for you because this isn't the first time I have seen your objectivity and the ability to recognize facts instead of being blind. I have no problems with people rooting for there favorite fighters but I can't satnd when the way a lot of Floyd fans are blinded and think he has no weknesses or think there is no way he can be beaten. Every fighter has weaknesses and can be beaten. Props to you deliveryman.

            Comment

            • mrdlazar
              Amateur
              Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
              • Feb 2007
              • 19
              • 1
              • 0
              • 6,067

              #16
              Thats a valid point but Mayorga and Vargas are not in Mayweathers league.Speed is power, especially when you dont see it. I think Floyd knows he cant run this fight, and if you look at the Corrales fight you will see that he didnt run but he was was never right there to be hit. Thats the style I think he will employ,not the gatti style where he was right in front of him.

              Comment

              • jai mari078
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jun 2006
                • 2935
                • 82
                • 0
                • 9,440

                #17
                Originally posted by deliveryman
                Judah did eat some pretty hard righthands.

                And I do believe if Judah didn't practically run for his life the entire second half of the fight, and didn't resort to low-blowing when he was really hurt, he would of been stopped.
                I don't doubt he could have been stopped but stopping Judah doesn't really impress me. He is so weak mentally and has a glass jaw, not to mention he melts down in every major fight he has been in. Judah has always had the skills and tool he is just mentally weak and honestly I have always felt he was overrated. he had Mayweather in trouble early he is just not mentally able to turn it up and capitilize.

                Comment

                • EliteSoldier
                  GOD
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 5008
                  • 335
                  • 21
                  • 5,251

                  #18
                  floyds an ugly looking dude, how come they call him pretty boy floyd...

                  Comment

                  • mrdlazar
                    Amateur
                    Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 19
                    • 1
                    • 0
                    • 6,067

                    #19
                    Cant argue with that...Judah is a let down........But that fight was easy work for floyd.....Remember Oscar lost to Mosley Trinidad, got a gift against Whitaker & Quartey, and that was in his prime. Remember he is not in his prime now........I may be blinded by bias, but lets say im right

                    Comment

                    • deliveryman
                      Your token white guy
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 7592
                      • 362
                      • 178
                      • 15,510

                      #20
                      Originally posted by EliteSoldier
                      floyds an ugly looking dude, how come they call him pretty boy floyd...
                      While he was an amateur his teammates gave him that nickname, because he was never cut or bruised after a fight.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP