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  • mr.thraz
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    #51
    Originally posted by pbds
    ....Where did I say that I thought Universum was so great? I'm glad the Klits are getting away from them, but not because I think they poison all the guys who fight their guys. Show me proof of any of the things you mentioned that fighters said happened to them in Germany. I still say it could be the rich food, the water, any number of things that happen to people all the time when they travel abroad. Ever heard of a fighter getting sick when they went to Mexico? I think Byrd had the runs because he got gang ****** and all lubed up in the back end.

    weak.

    virgil hill is a future hall of famer whos rep. is unblimished

    he's fought all around the world and knows not to drink the local water.

    if he said he thinks they cheat, i'll believe him before i believe a promoter wouldn't.

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      #52
      I will give Byrd props for his boxing skills and the fact that he seems accesible to the common man(Mr. Thaz). JK I emailed Byrd one time on the advice of a friend of his who was on the aol heavyweight boxing boards. He answered my email in less than 24 hours and it included some tough questions about the possibility of him ever fighting the Klits again. I was pretty impressed with that. The difference between you and I and your love of Byrd is that I look at the Klits realistically. The jury is still out on Wlad and his future gets cloudier by the day. I admit that something is wrong there and I'm not sure what his future holds. Vitali is not just recognized by me but by many other people and most boxing experts as the best out there. Given Byrds last two performances(should be loses) how can you keep a straight face and think he is still the man? Come on now? So, give me your take on Byrd's last two fights and how he did. This should be interesting.

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        #53
        Originally posted by mr.thraz
        weak.

        virgil hill is a future hall of famer whos rep. is unblimished

        he's fought all around the world and knows not to drink the local water.

        if he said he thinks they cheat, i'll believe him before i believe a promoter wouldn't.

        ....like I said, lets see the proof. Same thing goes for Wlad, no proof of wrong doing then it can't be taken as a fact. If evidence comes out to prove he was poisoned then we will know for sure. It was a strange collapse but maybe he was too hyped and something unusual happened to his system. He fought at that pace and higher many times before with no problems so something unusual went on in there. Who knows for sure?

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          #54
          Originally posted by mr.thraz
          weak.

          virgil hill is a future hall of famer whos rep. is unblimished

          he's fought all around the world and knows not to drink the local water.

          if he said he thinks they cheat, i'll believe him before i believe a promoter wouldn't.


          ...Besides, when Hill fought Michalczewski he was overmatched to begin with. It wouldn't have mattered where or when that fight took place. Michalczewski was simply a better fighter at that point in time and Hill was on the downside of his career. If Dariusz had the runs instead of Hill I'm sure it would have been the same result.

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          • mr.thraz
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            #55
            Originally posted by pbds
            I will give Byrd props for his boxing skills and the fact that he seems accesible to the common man(Mr. Thaz). JK I emailed Byrd one time on the advice of a friend of his who was on the aol heavyweight boxing boards. He answered my email in less than 24 hours and it included some tough questions about the possibility of him ever fighting the Klits again. I was pretty impressed with that. The difference between you and I and your love of Byrd is that I look at the Klits realistically. The jury is still out on Wlad and his future gets cloudier by the day. I admit that something is wrong there and I'm not sure what his future holds. Vitali is not just recognized by me but by many other people and most boxing experts as the best out there. Given Byrds last two performances(should be loses) how can you keep a straight face and think he is still the man? Come on now? So, give me your take on Byrd's last two fights and how he did. This should be interesting.

            oquindo vs. byrd

            that fight was byrds worst preformance but
            oquindo lost.


            oquindo was doing well rounds 3-7 doing to byrd what he does to most fighters, but then started imitating ruiz
            by rushing and grabbing and hitting behind the head.

            byrd wasn't busy but at least he was poppin the jab inbetween rushes and was trying to win, while all oquindo was trying to do was knock byrd out, the way he cheated and k.o.ed mo harris. grabbing and tackleing guys is no way to win rounds and rabbit punches dont either.

            poor preformance by byrd but worse preformance from oquindo.

            i had byrd up by two points but there where alotta ugly rounds and i could see someone scoreing it even or a point up for oquindo but it was a close ugly fight. and thats just not byrds fault that was oquindo.

            now as for the score. i totally think king put the fix in no way was it that far ahead for byrd but i do think he won 116-114.

            byrd vs. golata

            what can i say, it was a close fight. both guys shined, those who like boxers think byrd won those who like punchers thought golata
            won.

            i think a draw was fair, both guys worked hard and gave us the best fight that night. didn't you enjoy it? i loved it. i hope golata wins so i can see it again in as a unification bout.

            Originally posted by pbds
            ...Besides, when Hill fought Michalczewski he was overmatched to begin with. It wouldn't have mattered where or when that fight took place. Michalczewski was simply a better fighter at that point in time and Hill was on the downside of his career. If Dariusz had the runs instead of Hill I'm sure it would have been the same result.
            yeah so over matched he went up in weight and snached a cruserweight title, while Michalczewski loses his title to Julio Cesar González

            Originally posted by pbds
            I will give Byrd props for his boxing skills and the fact that he seems accesible to the common man(Mr. Thaz). JK I emailed Byrd one time on the advice of a friend of his who was on the aol heavyweight boxing boards. He answered my email in less than 24 hours and it included some tough questions about the possibility of him ever fighting the Klits again. I was pretty impressed with that. The difference between you and I and your love of Byrd is that I look at the Klits realistically. The jury is still out on Wlad and his future gets cloudier by the day. I admit that something is wrong there and I'm not sure what his future holds. Vitali is not just recognized by me but by many other people and most boxing experts as the best out there. Given Byrds last two performances(should be loses) how can you keep a straight face and think he is still the man? Come on now? So, give me your take on Byrd's last two fights and how he did. This should be interesting.
            thank you for getting my name right.
            many people are being influanced by the markiting done by hbo i.m.o. and don't look at the klits obvious flaws: vitali is two robotic and stiff to be a great fighter(not to say he won't beat alotta today's heavyweights, he knows how to back up and draw a fighter in.) but he will never beat a fighter with good movement,and he dont fight on the inside well,he looks sloppy fighting on the inside but it maybe ok for him cause he's got a granite chin.

            wlad: he's more athletic but he fights ******. chin in the air and hands low, goes for any feint,and on top of that no chin.
            i do think its possable he was poised i just ain't heard about it
            yet. but its believeable

            now i like byrd, cause he can box, not many heavys can do that right now. every time you talk to a casual fan about boxing they think its all about takin punches and k.o.ing the other guy cause they only watch heavyweights, but byrd brought boxing back to the div. and if thats looking at it unrealisticly the i'll be unrealistc we need byrd and toney to make these other guys start boxing again or the div. will turn into "who's got the biggest heavyeight with the most power " thats cool but it's only half the story and good boxer is a joy just to watch

            Originally posted by pbds
            ....like I said, lets see the proof. Same thing goes for Wlad, no proof of wrong doing then it can't be taken as a fact. If evidence comes out to prove he was poisoned then we will know for sure. It was a strange collapse but maybe he was too hyped and something unusual happened to his system. He fought at that pace and higher many times before with no problems so something unusual went on in there. Who knows for sure?
            why do you need proof? do you need proof that don king is fixing fights for his fighters ? did you need proof that king fixed dlh/trinadad? no! you know cause it makes since. same thing here. 5 guys with good rep say hey there cheating then you know the promoter with the bad rep is cheating.

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            • mr.thraz
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              #56
              they are getting away from universum? tell me more?

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                #57
                I will go with Jameel Mccline

                I think Byrd lost his last two fights,this time he is going to lose his title.

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                • mr.thraz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Mayweatherfan
                  I think Byrd lost his last two fights,this time he is going to lose his title.
                  i think he'll win i've seen jm and byrd sparr, he dont hold a candle to byrd.

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                  • PBDS
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by mr.thraz
                    they are getting away from universum? tell me more?


                    ....They are basically promoting themselves right now and have terminated the contract with Universum. It's still in litigation at the moment. Universum won the first round and the Klits won the second. It's all based on Universum trying to extend the contract based on Wlad and Vit being injured for a period of the contract. According to the Klits their obligation to the curent Universum contract is over with.

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                    • mr.thraz
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                      #60
                      thank u for telling me this pbds. thank u thank u thanku.

                      do you know what this means .


                      it means unification is just around the corner.

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