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  • Mr. Ryan
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    Respect for Juan Manuel Marquez

    Ever since Marquez's name became a popular drop in boxing, around 2001 after the Peden fight, I had been very dismissive of him. He never seemed to inspire much excitement, outside of his masterful textbook craft. My reluctance was afforded a boost of validity by way of Marquez's own domestic misfortune; Even to this day, Mexican nationals do not really like him.

    He never had a signature win, that was until last night against Barrera. I have to give the man props because he fought a nuts and guts war with a legend with a suprising quantity of juice left in the tank. Marquez was not passive as he was in the Norwood fight, which having watched it for the first time in 2003, was a disgusting bout that made me hate him.

    Should he fight a rematch with Barrera, good for him. No taunts, oh he's ducking Pacquiao, because business is business. There was a time in which Marquez was a lost cause in the sport, but now three years after their first fight, Pacquiao-Marquez is once again a big money fight. In fact, it's a bonafide superfight. Cong**** to Marquez, all the good things said about him are warranted. He is finally a legitimate champion. Belt, or no belt.
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    #2
    you have a slight look of jmm

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    • Mr. Ryan
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      #3
      Originally posted by azza
      you have a slight look of jmm
      I've been aware of this for a few years, thank you.

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      • Nacho_Analstain
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        #4
        only just noticed,good read by the way,saw the fight to day,what a fight

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          Originally posted by Asian Sensation
          Ever since Marquez's name became a popular drop in boxing, around 2001 after the Peden fight, I had been very dismissive of him. He never seemed to inspire much excitement, outside of his masterful textbook craft. My reluctance was afforded a boost of validity by way of Marquez's own domestic misfortune; Even to this day, Mexican nationals do not really like him.

          He never had a signature win, that was until last night against Barrera. I have to give the man props because he fought a nuts and guts war with a legend with a suprising quantity of juice left in the tank. Marquez was not passive as he was in the Norwood fight, which having watched it for the first time in 2003, was a disgusting bout that made me hate him.

          Should he fight a rematch with Barrera, good for him. No taunts, oh he's ducking Pacquiao, because business is business. There was a time in which Marquez was a lost cause in the sport, but now three years after their first fight, Pacquiao-Marquez is once again a big money fight. In fact, it's a bonafide superfight. Cong**** to Marquez, all the good things said about him are warranted. He is finally a legitimate champion. Belt, or no belt.
          I have always liked him and am a Mexican National, but I totally feel you. A lot of the people I know don't like him nearly as much as they do Barrera. I used to like them about the same but he pulled ahead for me last night because Barrera was dirty and he didn't accept defeat like a man. I always thought he had the style to beat both Morales and Barrera and he proved that last night, and he deserves respect because he also showed how tough he was.

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            #6
            Ive always liked Marquez, i just feel bad for him though that his breaks are coming in at the end of his career when hes definitely lost a step.

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              Put Marquez and Morales together in the ring, and I would still favor el terrible to beat JMM, Morales is the best mexican boxer among the three.

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              • PRboxingfan
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                I cannot argue with MAB thinking he was robbed. I had JMM winning 115-112 but many rounds were hard to score. I mean, Harrold Lederman had MAB winning the fight 114-113. It was a close fight as you can tell since I had it 7-5 JMM and Lederman had it 7-5 MAB.

                There were a few rounds that were hard to score and you had to go with who controlled the action (Ring Generalship) and who landed the cleaner / effective punches. I gave Marquez two rounds that Lederman did not because I felt that Marquez controlled the tempo and connected more power shots than Barrera (even if the total punches in the round were about the same, MAB threw more jabs and JMM threw more power punches).

                I could live with a 115-112 JMM, 114-113 JMM, or a 114-113 MAB. However, a 118-109 is ludicrous!

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                • PRboxingfan
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Emon723
                  Put Marquez and Morales together in the ring, and I would still favor el terrible to beat JMM, Morales is the best mexican boxer among the three.
                  Naw, I think Barrera was the best up to about a year ago when he fought Rocky Juarez the first time. I think he's taken a lot of punishment now and is just a bit off his game. I now favor JMM. Remember, Barrera won 2 of 3 fights with Morales (I had him winning the first fight, too) which clearly shows who's the best of those two.

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                  • aps214
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    Ever since Marquez's name became a popular drop in boxing, around 2001 after the Peden fight, I had been very dismissive of him. He never seemed to inspire much excitement, outside of his masterful textbook craft. My reluctance was afforded a boost of validity by way of Marquez's own domestic misfortune; Even to this day, Mexican nationals do not really like him.

                    He never had a signature win, that was until last night against Barrera. I have to give the man props because he fought a nuts and guts war with a legend with a suprising quantity of juice left in the tank. Marquez was not passive as he was in the Norwood fight, which having watched it for the first time in 2003, was a disgusting bout that made me hate him.

                    Should he fight a rematch with Barrera, good for him. No taunts, oh he's ducking Pacquiao, because business is business. There was a time in which Marquez was a lost cause in the sport, but now three years after their first fight, Pacquiao-Marquez is once again a big money fight. In fact, it's a bonafide superfight. Cong**** to Marquez, all the good things said about him are warranted. He is finally a legitimate champion. Belt, or no belt.


                    You're a good writer buddy. I hope you make it, because it seems to be your passion. Living in the tri-state area as do I Im sure you know Tim Smith, Mike Katz, etc. I am not impressed with them at all. I find it more intriguing reading what you write than what they do.

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