Lets Say

[+= El Jefe=+]

That one(lets not say a specific name) of the four HW champions unifies all the belts. by beating all of todays champs.
and goes on an holds his undisputed championship for 2-4 years.
would him get a spot on your all tiem greats list???

or would you say the division is soo weak that its almost impossible for someone to prove greatness against this opposition??

[RAESAAD]

Very good question......But I would think anyone who can clean out the paper champs and stay undefeated for another say 4 years or so no matter the state of the division should get some All time consideration at the least.

[Mech.]

I lean towards the latter.

[Mech.]

& to elaborate, the best in the division has been KO'ed by c-level comp,so it would be hard to justify comparing him to the greats,and if its any of the others, most of their technique/physique is so seriously lacking that youd be hardpressed to say they really belong up there.

[potatoes]

That one(lets not say a specific name) of the four HW champions unifies all the belts. by beating all of todays champs.
and goes on an holds his undisputed championship for 2-4 years.
would him get a spot on your all tiem greats list???

or would you say the division is soo weak that its almost impossible for someone to prove greatness against this opposition??

If you won the lottery, and if you didn't blow it all in a whorehouse, where would you be in 2-4 years?

[Welter_Skelter]

& to elaborate, the best in the division has been KO'ed by c-level comp,so it would be hard to justify comparing him to the greats,and if its any of the others, most of their technique/physique is so seriously lacking that youd be hardpressed to say they really belong up there.

A CHAMP is not perfect ... I know very few ATG save for marciano who went undeated..
What A champ is is some who can come back from adversity and prosper
Lennox gets credit for it Tyson does FFS Rahman does.. BUT Wlad cant???

Now if someone can Unify and hold the the title.. Not necesarily the belts.. but the titile of undisputed champ.. and keep it for 4 years and fight at least 10 fights in those 4 years.. Then Yes I would call that man at least an top20 ATG Heavyweight...

[Mech.]

A CHAMP is not perfect ... I know very few ATG save for marciano who went undeated..
What A champ is is some who can come back from adversity and prosper
Lennox gets credit for it Tyson does FFS Rahman does.. BUT Wlad cant???

Now if someone can Unify and hold the the title.. Not necesarily the belts.. but the titile of undisputed champ.. and keep it for 4 years and fight at least 10 fights in those 4 years.. Then Yes I would call that man at least an top20 ATG Heavyweight...

Corrie Sanders though? In two rounds? and that wasnt the first time hed been stopped.

what was that about tyson & rahman?

anyway Im not saying it just for the sake of being critical.

[chidave]

He's just trying to illustrate that even all-time greats, like Tyson (KO by Douglas) and Lewis (KO by McCall) have been stop by fighters on par with Sanders and Brewster (who are both easily on-par with McCall and Douglas).

To answer your question, I think so. Especially if it is done by Wlad, Peter, Brewster, or some young gun that came out of nowhere.

[H.EastmansBeard]

Depends on how much Povetkin,Peter,Haye improve and others who break through. Right now None of them would be amongst the greatest heavyweights of all time, to me they would just have been the best of a bad bunch.

[scap]

He's just trying to illustrate that even all-time greats, like Tyson (KO by Douglas) and Lewis (KO by McCall) have been stop by fighters on par with Sanders and Brewster (who are both easily on-par with McCall and Douglas).

To answer your question, I think so. Especially if it is done by Wlad, Peter, Brewster, or some young gun that came out of nowhere.

I concur my friend.