So, who do we want to see Wlad against?

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  • The Fix
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    #21
    any word on lamon? is he still going to comeback...?

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    • IronNick
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      #22
      VALUEV

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      • niceguy45
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        #23
        Originally posted by RunW/Knives
        The closest to is Peter.

        He's proven he can go the distance with, and hurt Wlad. With his newfound boxing skills he displayed against Toney by letting his hands go....it easily sets up the most interesting fight in the division for a later date.

        I think Peter should get a belt, Wlad the WBA and they unify.
        yeah but it's not exciting IMO i would not pay ppv to watch the UK star

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          #24
          Originally posted by niceguy45
          yeah but it's not exciting IMO i would not pay ppv to watch the UK star
          Well, either way.

          Peter is going to get another shot. Nobody in the division has a remote chance of beating him outside of Wlad according to Mua.

          But Valuev/Klitschko should be made, Valuev remains unbeaten.



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          • oldgringo
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            #25
            Originally posted by beez721
            peter already fought wlad and lost to a wlad that looked dreadful that night. without the bogus knock down calls it was a one sided fight,,so after peter does nothing but win a decision over a club fighter in hawkins and beating toney a legit 1 out of 2 times and not being able to stop him,,,this gives him a good shot in a rematch with wlad? I dont see it. peter looked better in the 2nd fight with toney,,,but toney couldnt get out of the way of his own 2 feet and had no firepower. wlad clearly seems more improved than peter,,and has shown it over several fights,,not just 1 fight over a fat clearly shot 38 yr old. I think a rematch would be even more one sided than the first fight. at least with valuev hes still undefeated and has enormous size and good stamina for a huge man. this alone could possibly wear wlad down. thats why this fight intrigues me more than peter who will likely wear down again to wlads viscious jabs and hooks
            Peter has shown a solid chin thus far. Valuev has shown a solid chin as well, but Peter showed a beard and a half against your boy. It took Wlad 11.5 rounds of jabs, right hands, left hooks and leaning all over Peter to get him to finally wear out. Not only do I think Peter has improved skill wise, but I think he would also come in to the fight in much better shape.

            I'm skeptical as to how much Wlad improved after the Peter bout. Wlad might as well have fought Paul Malignaggi when he fought Byrd, he fought a live opponent in Brock which was a good win, and Austin just laid down in that one. Peter gives Wlad a completely different look than Brock. More aggressive, bigger punch, better chin = more of a threat to Wlad.

            The second Peter touches that chin we'd *probably* see Wlad hold excessively again in order to not go down or get hurt. Wlad did what he had to do in that first fight to survive...and good on him. Wlad will still have many problems in a rematch when Peter isn't reduced to the one-punch-at-a-time fighter he was after the 5th/6th round of their first bout. This time around I don't know if it'd be as simple as saying, "if Wlad gets past the 6th round he'd win", because Sam just showed better stamina...albeit against an old blown up middleweight who lacked power.

            I think Peter had more room for improvement than Wlad and I think he capitalized on some of the aspects of his game that needed to be addressed...that will make for one hell of an interesting rematch in my eyes.

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              #26
              voted for valuev

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              • Easy-E
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                #27
                valuev or briggs.

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                • beez721
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                  The closest to is Peter.

                  He's proven he can go the distance with, and hurt Wlad. With his newfound boxing skills he displayed against Toney by letting his hands go....it easily sets up the most interesting fight in the division for a later date.

                  I think Peter should get a belt, Wlad the WBA and they unify.
                  I still dont see all this big improvement with peter. he had a clearly shot 38 yr old toney right in front of him who couldnt get out of the way of his own 2 feet in this fight. peter has shown flashes of a good jab and combination punching in several of his other fights such as his fight with shufford. I cant see him having any more of a punchers chance against wlad then he did last time which any fighter with even a descent amount of power will always have with wlad. I'd much rather see valuev in the ring with wlad

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by psychopath
                    There's no other way to go but Valuev. Wlad already made a press release just a few days ago.

                    Briggs is out of the equation because he can't fight, he's got illness.

                    this has to be the weakest hvwt division ever.

                    the wlad/valuev is a better circus act then wlad/peter in my eyes.

                    and then we got vklit/peters to look forward to after all the clowning around settles down.



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                    on klit/bozo austin.

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                    • Run
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by beez721
                      I still dont see all this big improvement with peter. he had a clearly shot 38 yr old toney right in front of him who couldnt get out of the way of his own 2 feet in this fight. peter has shown flashes of a good jab and combination punching in several of his other fights such as his fight with shufford. I cant see him having any more of a punchers chance against wlad then he did last time which any fighter with even a descent amount of power will always have with wlad. I'd much rather see valuev in the ring with wlad
                      Nobody has ever came anywhere near knocking Toney out. His chin is in my opinion the best of all time among virtually any P4P fighter. And the Shufford fight was a total clinchfest anyways.

                      In no way shape or form could Peter be penalized for not knocking Toney out.....outside of Wlad I don't see anyone with the composition that could do so....simple as that.

                      Peter showed tremendous improvement in his timing. There were points in the second fight where he out countered Toney and stuck him with the jab.



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