Fernando Vargas Middleweights New Number 1 ??

[HomicideHank]

Fighters have to make some noise too man...get attention. market themselves.

Yeah, but guys don't have to be obnoxious *******s like Muhammad Ali either. You can make noise with your fists, not just your mouth. I'm sure Evander Holyfield didn't get well-known because of his world-class **** talking skills.

[anthetamine]

i dont think anyone was saying anything about boxers who are loud mouthed, as long as they can back it up

if i were to start saying now that i would kick everyones arse in the middleweight division i would sound like an idiot, if nard said it, it wouldnt sound ******, because its correct

if you can walk the walk, then its acceptable to talk the talk aswell

if you cant, then shut up !!!!!!!

[mr. bojangles]

Yeah, but guys don't have to be obnoxious *******s like Muhammad Ali either. You can make noise with your fists, not just your mouth. I'm sure Evander Holyfield didn't get well-known because of his world-class **** talking skills.

hahahaha LOL right! Point taken Hank, anthetamine.

[Palma]

The middleweight division is where it is AT!

Screw the HW division. There are going to be some great fights in the future. This is what boxing has been waiting for. Never has a division this pumped since the late seventies and early eighties. Awesome!

[anthetamine]

good point.... middleweight is rammed with talent now

wouldnt be surprised if rjj dropped down to there

there are some really exciting fights to look forward to in the next couple of years

[WillieW]

Vargus should stay at 154 for a while. He has to prove that he can get in shape in order to convince me that he isn't damaged goods. He should not go down to 147 considering the last fight he had at 147 was in 1998, thats asking a bit much. Going up tp 160 is a sure sign that he is not in the kind of shape he should be in. The point has been brought up that he is still young, but he can't make his normal weight? Doesn't sound too promising. Add the back problems and it gets bleak for Vargus.

With that said.....I would like him to get well and fight well. Love him or hate him, he was great to watch, but I'm sceptical.

[jabsRstiff]

Vargas is damaged goods.
I can see him getting KO'd in anyone of his fights in the future.

His confidence & chin (related in a way) are nothing like they were, pre-Trinidad.
The snap & sharpness is gone from his punches.....& he just looks like he's TRUDGING around the ring far more than he ever did.


As for the roids....Steroids HURT a fighter. Fighters should be LOOSE, not tight.
Vargas looked TIGHT (bad way) against DeLaHoya. He did not look stronger, more powerful, & certainly not more explosive.


He's doomed.