Is it fair that Oscar never has to face mandatories?

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  • !! Anorak
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    Is it fair that Oscar never has to face mandatories?

    First of all, let me state from the outset that I have no real opinion on this one way or the other, no real viewpoint to push in any direction. I just thought it might be something to discuss, that's all.

    I note that the era of people getting stripped of their belts due to inactivity (Casamayor being the latest example) is well and truly upon us. Yet De La Hoya will have held onto his belt for a YEAR without having to defend it.

    Obviously I can see the logic behind it in terms of fees, etc. But is this a just act? Is it right that there should be one rule for one, and a different set of rules for everyone else?


    Thoughts........?
  • cortdawg25
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    #2
    Yeah I hear you. Oscar gets away with a lot. he remains champs for years despite defenses, doesn't have mandatories, and can charge whatever he wants for the tickets and the PPV. He also gets to pick the venue and he dictates the negotiatons in every fight. i think he thinks he is boxing...hell he might just come out with his Boxing Commission, he might as well.

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    • psychopath
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      #3
      Originally posted by !! Anorak
      First of all, let me state from the outset that I have no real opinion on this one way or the other, no real viewpoint to push in any direction. I just thought it might be something to discuss, that's all.

      I note that the era of people getting stripped of their belts due to inactivity (Casamayor being the latest example) is well and truly upon us. Yet De La Hoya will have held onto his belt for a YEAR without having to defend it.

      Obviously I can see the logic behind it in terms of fees, etc. But is this a just act? Is it right that there should be one rule for one, and a different set of rules for everyone else?


      Thoughts........?
      Honestly? What belt does De La Hoya hold? WBC right?

      Screw Sulaiman! It's obvious buddy, how much would WBC earn in a DLH mega fight? Just like in the Klitscho/Maskaev/Peter case. Again it's all about money.

      Reason why boxing is continuosly on the decline. It's because these MONEY SUCKING Boxing bodies keeps losing credibilty.

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      • Sin City
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        #4
        Originally posted by cortdawg25
        Yeah I hear you. Oscar gets away with a lot. he remains champs for years despite defenses, doesn't have mandatories, and can charge whatever he wants for the tickets and the PPV. He also gets to pick the venue and he dictates the negotiatons in every fight. i think he thinks he is boxing...hell he might just come out with his Boxing Commission, he might as well.
        He charges what he wants for ticket and PPV and chooses the venue because he IS the promoter. And when you have a champ that will make you big bucks everytime he fights, why not let him fight when he wants.. hes making you the money. Floyd doesn't have mandatories either.. I think they have earned that and have gotten to that status. Could you imagine Floyd or Oscar going up against some weak ass mandatories.. it would be a slaughter

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        • niceguy45
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          #5
          Originally posted by psychopath
          Honestly? What belt does De La Hoya hold? WBC right?

          Screw Sulaiman! It's obvious buddy, how much would WBC earn in a DLH mega fight? Just like in the Klitscho/Maskaev/Peter case. Again it's all about money.

          Reason why boxing is continuosly on the decline. It's because these MONEY SUCKING Boxing bodies keeps losing credibilty.
          one thing to temember he has WBC belt, if it was
          WBA or WBO not IBF he would need to fight a mandatory fight or will be stripped, that's why WBC is the best, lol

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          • TheEvilSaint
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            #6
            like larry merchant said long ago "stardom like age has it's privleges. there are many many champions and very very few stars."

            oscar shouldnt have to face mandatories cuz hes the golden boy, hes the biggest star in boxing now.

            theres no need for oscar to face a mandatory.

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            • psychopath
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              #7
              Originally posted by niceguy45
              one thing to temember he has WBC belt, if it was
              WBA or WBO not IBF he would need to fight a mandatory fight or will be stripped, that's why WBC is the best, lol
              Hey the other boxing bodies have their part of screw ups too, only difference is it's not as obvious as goddam Sulaiman.

              This guy stripped JMM of his Featherweight title after promoters doesn't want to pay JMM more than 50 gran to defend his title.

              This is the same guy who allowed MAB to defend his WBC title three consecutive times against not mandatory challengers. TWICE against Rocky and now JMM.

              Also the same guy who ordered Peter to fight for an eliminator twice only to allow Vitali the first crack at the title. And when it's time to make a decision? He ****i'n went to a mediation body. **** that!

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              • borikua
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                #8
                He was too busy collecting paper belts to become a 6 div champ...

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                • Konstantin
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by psychopath
                  Hey the other boxing bodies have their part of screw ups too, only difference is it's not as obvious as goddam Sulaiman.

                  This guy stripped JMM of his Featherweight title after promoters doesn't want to pay JMM more than 50 gran to defend his title.

                  This is the same guy who allowed MAB to defend his WBC title three consecutive times against not mandatory challengers. TWICE against Rocky and now JMM.

                  Also the same guy who ordered Peter to fight for an eliminator twice only to allow Vitali the first crack at the title. And when it's time to make a decision? He ****i'n went to a mediation body. **** that!

                  Im sure that Rocky and JMM are both better than any of the mandatory challengers. What are you complaining about? He's actually making interesting fights...

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                  • Emon723
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                    #10
                    oscar's last mandatory he fought was patrick carpienter, I feel Karmazin deserves to fight DLH when he became his mandatory.

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