UFC flunks drug tests

[BigCol]

I'm not sticking up for the people juicing....that's absurd.

I'm pointing out there are juicers and there are guys who don't use steroids. We could sit here all day long and I'd name guys I'd never suspect of using steroids.....like the Gracies. Can you name 1 gracie you think Juices?

Obviously. I thought you were sticking up for the juicers. MMA is still a dirty sport, however. Do you agree with that?

[BigCol]

I don't like reading things like "Oh every Mixed Martial Artist Juices" because I think it's absurd.

Perhaps I should of made my original point clearer. Some MMA guys are juicers - some are not. Happy?

[Run]

Obviously. I thought you were sticking up for the juicers. MMA is still a dirty sport, however. Do you agree with that?

Of course it's dirty and I stated that in my first post.

That's the bad part of the sport....but it's no different than other sports. IE
Football, Baseball, Pro Wrestling(as much as I think that's a joke), and especially cycling.....that's been established. Performance enhancing drug use is rampant in virtually all professional sports. That's why I'm not going to attach a single stigma to MMA where there are plenty of cases in other sports.



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[BigCol]

Of course it's dirty and I stated that in my first post.

That's the bad part of the sport....but it's no different than other sports. IE
Football, Baseball, Pro Wrestling(as much as I think that's a joke), and especially cycling.....that's been established. Performance enhancing drug use is rampant in virtually all professional sports. That's why I'm not going to attach a single stigma to MMA where there are plenty of cases in other sports.

Hm - fair enough.

[Run]

Perhaps I should of made my original point clearer. Some MMA guys are juicers - some are not. Happy?

Yes.

And they should face the penalty just like everyone else. They don't get to fight and that definitely isn't good for their career. White will not let these kinds of things go unpunished...and let the UFC turn into this ridiculous stereotype that pretty much has already surfaced.



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[eazy_mas]

Of course it's dirty and I stated that in my first post.

That's the bad part of the sport....but it's no different than other sports. IE
Football, Baseball, Pro Wrestling(as much as I think that's a joke), and especially cycling.....that's been established. Performance enhancing drug use is rampant in virtually all professional sports. That's why I'm not going to attach a single stigma to MMA where there are plenty of cases in other sports.

like the Tour de France has the highest percentage of steroid abuse and they dont look like they are juiced

weridiest then is after amstrong when out nearly all the top player where taking roids and there where clams on amstrong as well.

i think sometimes some steroid are pretty much advance that it unknownen to the public too

[BigCol]

Yes.

And they should face the penalty just like everyone else. They don't get to fight and that definitely isn't good for their career. White will not let these kinds of things go unpunished...and let the UFC turn into this ridiculous stereotype that pretty much has already surfaced.

You can usually tell by looking at a guy if he is on roids. Most guys know that UFC fighters are on roids ...but most do not care. It is entertainment and MMA fights are highly entertaining.

[BigCol]

like the Tour de France has the highest percentage of steroid abuse and they dont look like they are juiced

weridiest then is after amstrong when out nearly all the top player where taking roids and there where clams on amstrong as well.

i think sometimes some steroid are pretty much advance that it unknownen to the public too

Maybe not anabolic steroids in this case but illegal substances are no doubt used with 99% of cyclists today. It is almost impossible to compete without.

[Run]

like the Tour de France has the highest percentage of steroid abuse and they dont look like they are juiced

weridiest then is after amstrong when out nearly all the top player where taking roids and there where clams on amstrong as well.

i think sometimes some steroid are pretty much advance that it unknownen to the public too

I get your point....but come on. Look at them.

Look at Chuck and Tank. I think the only think they "juice" are damn 24 oz budweiser cans and they've both openly established that.

Whereas it was discussed how steroids are used for recovery purposes well....that would still be juicing but not by performance enhancing standards in a way. Because using a recuperative steroid or other that would yield a positive on a test would classify as a steroid in a technical sense....but doesn't fit the stereotypical mold of a drug that makes you muscular and lean.

Cyclers use different types of roids. They aren't necessarily bulking roids...they're used for different things IE recuperation.



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[Run]

You can usually tell by looking at a guy if he is on roids. Most guys know that UFC fighters are on roids ...but most do not care. It is entertainment and MMA fights are highly entertaining.

ROIDS.











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