Wow!! Does Oscar think he can win?

[monkeyboy]

Making the argument that these requirements (if true) are equilivalent to bringing a gang into a one on one fight is spurious at best.
This is a pathetic article, biased beyond partisanship.
Floyd Mayweather wants to fight the biggest draw in boxing and increase his renown and bank balance then he can choose to take the terms or leave them. It's the fight game not the talk game.
Saying which, Floyd hasn't said a word about this so he is obviously less of a cry baby than the author.
I'm personally looking forward to the fight and think that this is a good step in the right direction for Floyd. If he retires then I will be dissappointed in his wasted potential.

[scap]

De La Hoya/Mayweather: A Fair Fight? What Happened To The Old Way?

13.02.07 - By Ernesto Morales: When I was a youngster growing up in the tough South Bronx and in the barrios of P.R., there existed an almost forgotten tradition of a fair fight. Statistically speaking, my hood, Fort Apache, Bronx, 42nd police precinct, had for many years the infamous reputation of having the highest crime rate in New York for well over a decade and, indeed, the whole nation almost as often and all on official stat list, no less.

But even in this barrio, if two contestants would call each other out to a fair fight, no one, no matter of what race, origin, religion, barrio, colors, would dare violate the code. No one. Fair fight was a Man's code and respected. I personally prevented (at times with difficulty) my homies from breaking our gentleman's agreement. Whether your man won or lost and/or there were gang /barrio/race/boundary issues still pending, they would be resolved afterwards in declared rumbles and even they sometimes had rules of war that we abided by.

Sure we resorted to ambushes, barrio style gorilla warfare, BUT fair fight was respected. It is important I add that those innocent bystander shootings we find common today were considered so cowardly that they just didn't happen.

Now, where am I going with this? Well, let's consider the May 5th, 2007 extravaganza. Sure, it's a mega fight but is it a Mega Fair Fight? I invite you all to take a closer look.

Here we have a great, physically bigger fighter vs a great smaller fighter. But it's the bigger fighter that has deliberately stacked the cards in his favor as far and as long as believably / unbelievably possible by forcing the smaller fighter to accept all the pre-fight conditions or the fight's off, cancelled or aborted like some undesired pregnancy. Isn't being bigger and getting the Lion's share of the event enough?? Apparently not.

Floyd must concede to Oscar's demands of:

1-Financial arrangements

2-Pre-fight promotional demands

3-Ring size to cut his versatility. If we remember well, when Oscar fought Trinidad he also then demanded a ring size to his liking, but that time it was a demand for a larger ring or the fight was off! Needless to say, his demands were met.

4-Oscar's Pre-arranged/conditioned weight agreement where Floyd must come in at a certain weight and no lighter in an attempt (a logical attempt) of the Golden Boy to slow down the fleet footed Pretty Boy.

But this fair fight doesn't stop here, there's more;

5-The gloves to be worn are also conditioned to Oscar's wants and desires.

Fair Fight? Some might consider it quite the contrary or more of an un-fair affair reasonably speaking. Well then again, that may depend on whom one is rooting for, should it? Doesn't fair mean just that? No more and no less. Was it ever fair for the bigger schoolyard combatant to get his even bigger brother to help him fight his battles? Or have some one grab or hold down the faster smaller guy? Use brass knuckles? Is it right for the more popular MVP demand that the pitcher inform him of what pitches he's about to throw or the game is off. Or can a Carl Lewis demand that the opposing sprinter run with lead weights on his ankles? No? Why not? Because although it might/can be legally worked out it still doesn't sound fair.

I'm not a hater. Those who know me can attest that that isn't my style. It's only my way of seeing things. I'm old school although some might consider me too Old fashioned for today's boxing modern times.

But then again, my interpretation of a fair fight may be biased and un-fair on account of my upbringing and really doesn't hold water. Like I already said, it might depend on whom one has their money on or rooting for. Personally, I'd like for The Pretty Boy to get some ring dust on his behind but that would only satisfy my dream craving if it were done on even terms or in a fair fight.

Do I believe that Oscar can't beat Floyd on even terms? Good question. What do you guys think? Whether you or I believe or think he can or can't IS not the issue. Does Oscar believe he can? Stop and think about it. Well, judging by his conditions and his demands, he...Oh well, you be the judge. I believe I've said enough.

Thanks for take the time to read. Peace

Typical cry baby Puerto Rican, man you guys stink even worse then Mexicans!

No offense.

[gixxer]

I know that crazy right. He must know he can't win with him at his best. That is what that says to me and he is trying to not get the best Floyd in the ring.

NO HES TRYING NOT TO GET A FLOYD WIT A 10 SPEED IN THE RING THATS WHY HES MAKING IT SMALLER AND WHO CARES IF HE DOES IT DELAHOYAS TURN TO CALL THE SHOTS........WITH OTHER FIGHTERS FLOYD CAN PICK WHO HE WILL FIGHT AND HOW AND HOW BIG A RING ETC...........................BUT WIT DELAHOYA HES THE MAIN NAME HERE SO EVERTHING IS COMING BACK AROUND TO HIM...............CAN ALWAYS HAVE YOUR WAY

[niceguy45]

didn't pbf agree to those terms already ?
that's his problems if all these terms are true, his ass shouldn't be worried now

[wmute]

reminds me of hagler-leonard.

hated leonard for imposing his bargaining power once more.

hated hagler even more for accepting out of greed and self confidence.

let's see how this one plays out. in hagler-leonard the guy imposing his conditions was also younger and the smarter fighter in the ring. this time it is the opposite way, the guy imposing the conditions is the bigger, older fighter.

[wmute]

posts like some of the ones i read in this thread, make me feel for pbf.

in the beginning i was fascinated by his skills and hated his guts, and i decided to just watch him fight and not listen to him.

i read posts from all the ones usually hating his greed (which is the natural condition of all mankind IMO) and his "not being a fighter", and what do all this posts say today? that for his opponent it is okay to get every possible advantage at the negotiation table. imagine if it was mayweather imposing a larger ring or pillow gloves or a catchweight for oscar, we would be reading flames for pages. the word ***** would appear 100 times per page of the thread.

talk of double standards

[Guest]

posts like some of the ones i read in this thread, make me feel for pbf.

in the beginning i was fascinated by his skills and hated his guts, and i decided to just watch him fight and not listen to him.

i read posts from all the ones usually hating his greed (which is the natural condition of all mankind IMO) and his "not being a fighter", and what do all this posts say today? that for his opponent it is okay to get every possible advantage at the negotiation table. imagine if it was mayweather imposing a larger ring or pillow gloves or a catchweight for oscar, we would be reading flames for pages. the word ***** would appear 100 times per page of the thread.

talk of double standards

Yeah, I definetely agree with you on this but Mayweather doesn't take it to this degree. All he cares about is the money. I doubt he's going to specify which gloves they wear, how big the ring is, etc. Oscar is worse than Floyd as far as greed and power are concerned, the only difference is he doesn't talk all the **** that Floyd does...

[wmute]

Yeah, I definetely agree with you on this but Mayweather doesn't take it to this degree. All he cares about is the money. I doubt he's going to specify which gloves they wear, how big the ring is, etc. Oscar is worse than Floyd as far as greed and power are concerned, the only difference is he doesn't talk all the **** that Floyd does...

i dont think one is better or worse than the other. I am quite sure mayweather would do the same if he was the draw. pro boxing is a business.

oscar has more charisma than floyd for sure.

I just find those posts pathetic.

[cortdawg25]

NO HES TRYING NOT TO GET A FLOYD WIT A 10 SPEED IN THE RING THATS WHY HES MAKING IT SMALLER AND WHO CARES IF HE DOES IT DELAHOYAS TURN TO CALL THE SHOTS........WITH OTHER FIGHTERS FLOYD CAN PICK WHO HE WILL FIGHT AND HOW AND HOW BIG A RING ETC...........................BUT WIT DELAHOYA HES THE MAIN NAME HERE SO EVERTHING IS COMING BACK AROUND TO HIM...............CAN ALWAYS HAVE YOUR WAY

It's always Oscar turn to call the shots...what are you saying? And i don't recall Floyd ever changing the ring size or telling a fighter which gloves to wear, but he did make Corrales fight him at 130. Oscar is acting weak and he knows he needs all the advatanges he can get and some divine intervention to get a W on May 5th. Ima tryna tell you, he never wanted to fight in the 1st place!!

[cortdawg25]

I'll see what I can find, but Oscar is getting the lion's share which we all know. And Floyd has stated that he must wear Reyes' gloves which are puncher's glove, which we all know. I'll see what I can find about the ring size...

I couldn't find anything on the ring size so that might not be true. Ima have somebody ask Floyd.