Mayweather IS the perfect fighter

[Dionyseus]

I've watched all of PBF's fights and most of Whitaker's fights (I'm up to the second Rivera fight when Whitaker is already over 30 and passed his peak, and I've seen the DLH fight), and PBF is as close to perfect that I've ever seen.

PBF is 5'8", this is perhaps the pefect height for boxing. At 5'8" you are generally considered at a healthy weight if you are between 138-169 pounds. This means that PBF can, probably five years or something from now, fight at 168 if he wanted. Keep in mind that he started as a pro at 130.

PBF has excellent footwork, perhaps the best footwork ever, and he loves working out. There's a difference between making weight and being in shape, and he's always in shape. Not only does he have excellent footwork, he fights extremely well going backwards, probably only Pernell Whitaker (although when he moved up to welterweight he stopped using footwork and relied on quick reflexes instead) could match him as best at fighting while going backwards. Because of his excellent shape, he can and has (see the Baldomir fight) been able to run backwards the entire fight and still dominate.

PBF has excellent reflexes, perhaps the best reflexes ever, certainly better than Whitaker's and that's saying a lot. The guy has never, never been knocked down by a punch, that's simply incredible.

PBF can fight in the pocket whenever he wants to, his reflexes and defense is so good he barely ever gets hit.

PBF has decent power, definitely better than Whitaker's, and unlike Whitaker he actually has the "killer instinct", he knows how to finish when the opportunity is there.

PBF has excellent speed, one of the fastest boxers ever, I'd say he's clearly faster than Whitaker ever was (which is saying a lot because during Whitaker's early career he was noted for being a fast puncher) .

PBF has excellent accuracy, he picks his shots well like Whitaker.

You add all these qualities up and you can make a good argument that PBF is the greatest boxer ever regardless of the quality of opposition he has faced.

[BigCol]

Hilarious post. It goes to show you how writing skills can make moron fanboys actually BELIEVE you. Hilarious.

And comparing Mayweather to Joe Gans (1930 Joe Gans mind you). That is just hilarious.

[Kball15]

gans is the biggest cheat ever. his fight with kid mcoy is on youtube. He took a dive. He isnt close to the best ive ever seen on film. He just had a great right hand he was excellent at using it

[Sin City]

Atleast the closest thing to, that I've seen on film. Only Joe Gans comes close.


He's the grandmaster at punching from angles that allow him to hit but not be hit. He's the grandmaster at potshotting faster than anybody before moving out of distance. He's the grandmaster at fighting in the pocket, moving in and out, counter-punching, combination punching.

If Oscar has any chance to win, he'll have to use his size and reach to his advantage, since he won't be able to compete with Mayweather's speed of hand and countering. More than that, Oscar will have to be able to fight hard for the entire 12 rounds, something he's had problems with in the past, when he's run out of gas in the late rounds against Trinidad, Mosley, and Hopkins. Based on this alone, I'm not giving Oscar much of a chance unless Roach somehow sorts this conditioning thing out.

When Oscar acquired the services of Mayweather Sr his boxing skills improved. He showed much better lateral movement and set up his punches much better. To do what he did the first six rounds against Bernard Hopkins was remakable considering the size difference and his miserable showing against Felix Sturm the fight before. I'm wondering what Roach will bring to the table. Rumour has it that Plan A will be inside fighting at a high pace with tight punches, trying to out-maneuver the shoulder roll.

But with Mayweather it isn't just a matter of rolling his shoulders. Mayweather can fight on the inside with full guard or half-guard. He can tuck up and pick you off or he can square up bull you and let the big guns go.

It's true that Mayweather has never ever started from the inside, but then he's never ever needed to. Oscar doesn't shift his feet forward quickly and get up-close, it's not his natural game and Roach only has two months.

Anyone who thinks Mayweather hasn't got a complete inside game is badly mistaken. Oscar would get smashed on the inside like Hernandez did and like Chavez did. Even against Castillo, Mayweather decided to stand his ground in the 11th and he punched Castillo to a standstill.

Mayweather has too many moves for Oscar on the inside range, who has gone through more trainers than I have hot dinners which shows he probably doesn't know his game too well.

Mayweather is much too smart, whatever punch Oscar is open for he'll find it and work it. Just like Chavez was a sucker for the right uppercut and he ate em like they were sweeties. Again he was also punched to a standstill like Castillo. Hernandez was also punched to a standstill until Mayweather broke his hand and was forced to shut Hernandez out with one hand.

And just cos Mayweather doesn't stand forever on the inside doesn't mean he isn't the **** at it.


If De La Hoya tries to utilise his jab, he better brace himself for the right hand counters to the body.

At mid-range, Mayweather can land a bodyshot of any kind faster than Oscar can land a left hook.

And Mayweather's body arsenal is the most complete in history. Whether they fear it or not doesn't matter. Judah was totally dominated by bodyshots to the extent he was forced into survival. Prior to that Mitchell was ko'd by a bodyshot. Prior to that he showed us scintolating head to body and body to head combo's on Gatti. Prior to that he stopped another guy with a bodyshot. He's stopped, dropped or hurt all types of fighters with all types of bodyshots.

His work speaks for itself.

People might fear Hatton and Cotto's bodyshots but it's Floyd who is dominating the champions with his body work.


Roach and Oscar have to rely on Mayweather making mistakes, which he simply doesn't do. Maybe they'll try forcing him into making mistakes, but how? Pressuring? Sure, fight outside of your natural game, eat up punches (Oscar has always been particularly uncomfortable when being hit consistently, and Mayweather's punch is under-rated in this fight - he'll be punching harder than ever because he'll be carrying more muscle than ever) and wear yourself out even sooner than usual. Mayweather's balance on the inside is impeccable.

What if Mayweather's punch doesn't affect Oscar, and Oscar lands a left hook directly after being hit? He won't. If Mayweather senses that his punch isn't affecting Oscar, as he lands the right hand lead he'll pivot off to the right where he can either tie Oscar up, or hit him with a couple of left hooks before tying him up; hooking and/or or uppercutting and then establishing distance with a solid jab to end maybe a three-punch or more flurry with the left with a right thrown in for good measure, or dancing out of range after a couple of follow-up lefts.

This is your first post and you have gotten a lot of feedback and a 4 star rating godd **** bro.. Good K coming your way..

[eazy_mas]

Floyd is a BOXER, he is an extremely skilled one, but don't even dare call him a fighter. Fighters fight, boxers box, and floyd boxes.

well once you are in the ring it does matter you gotta fight if you are a slugger or boxer or swamper you gotta fight to win.

if you have entered the ring it already a war and there is no stopping it enless a KO, TKO or after 12 round

[Tysonisgod]

floyd is best fighter in the world, he can fight any style of fighter, and you no what makes him the best, the fact that he beat everyone he has ever fought, i dont no if he will beat oscar, i hope he does, jst so i can read and hear the exuses of everyone that said oscar would win, but even if floyd kicks his ass, ppl will say, ohh its not the same oscar from yesteryear blah blah blah, ive got £100 on this fight...come on floyd man

[eazy_mas]

just read the whole thing and i agree with something that you said but you forgot the part where Mayweather is still unknow in 154 wieght class will he have his speed ? that is the question for this fight.

gotta see the public training to decised on things.

another thing in this fight is the high rate of DHL getting gifted

[wmute]

well mayweather is still untested at 154.

i do not agree or disagree strongly with the predictions on oscar vs floyd, but all the considerations regarding the past are well on point.

good stuff

[wmute]

just read the whole thing and i agree with something that you said but you forgot the part where Mayweather is still unknow in 154 wieght class will he have his speed ? that is the question for this fight.

gotta see the public training to decised on things.

another thing in this fight is the high rate of DHL getting gifted

I think mosley 2 and tito make up for pea, ike, sturm.

I think the tito robbery was so much bigger than any of the gifts, that they definitely do.

[Dionyseus]

I think mosley 2 and tito make up for pea, ike, sturm.

I think the tito robbery was so much bigger than any of the gifts, that they definitely do.

The Tito fight was close, in close fights like that you don't run away in the last round like DLH did. I gave the fight to Tito, but like I said it was close.