Roach on Oscar's Game Plan and on Mayweather's Flaws

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  • Welter_Skelter
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    #21
    Originally posted by tito yuca
    I'm amazed at how you have gotten a 5 star-rating. If there was contact removed from boxing then it wouldn't be boxing would it? You're the typical dude that's obssessed with violence and wants to make others who aren't as sick as you feel as less of a man.

    You say it's not Nutcracker on Ice, well, Floyd didn't get his unbeated record just dancing and running around, Ali didn't get his record like that, or Whitaker, etc, or any other INTELLIGENT boxer that has ever fought.
    No.. but with the exception of ALi and Leonrad(both of who had no problem trading)
    Its the TYSONS, Trinidads,Gattis,Durans and such of the world Who have/had the massive FAN bases and media appeal...

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    • tito yuca
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      #22
      Originally posted by RunW/Knives
      Whatever.

      Tito is your favorite fighter and you're making an ass out of yourself by posting what you're posting. It's not congruent with his fighting style....ever.

      Because you're username is TitoYuca and you have a pair of PR boxing gloves in your avatar....that means you're a Tito fan.

      All Tito did was stand and trade.
      I'm not a huge Tito fan actually...my nickname has nothing to do with him, "Tito" is the most common nickname in Puerto Rico. I used to get hate from Tito fans here because I wasn't all over his nuts and could see his flaws.

      While Tito was no Mayweather, his skills were definitely above average. Even if he got knocked down a few times, he always had great balance, had pretty quick hands, and his defense was nowhere near as bad as, say, Gatti's for example.

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      • AllEyesOpen
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Wire
        As long as he doesnt punch himself out. He did at the end of the Quartey fight and we all know that he does tend to fade in the later rounds. He needs to build up a lead at the start of the fight like Zab did but then sustain it until at least round 8, when Floyd will take over. This is unless Oscar can put enough hurting on Floyd to truly discourage him and to wear him down. I think Oscar really needs to work on body shots, too, to slow PBF down as soon as possible.
        That true, that why he better come in this best shape of his life if he wants to win this fight, I agree body shots are essential(although hard to land against Floyd), but if he thinks he could build up a lead then stroll the last few rounds, I dont see that happening, I think he has to stay active, keep moving forward & not let the fact that PBF is damn near impossible to hit with a clean shot discourage him, slowly but surely he has the skill & power to take PBF apart & win a decision. I don't think he could land that famous left hook cleanly, but if he does I'd love to see Floyd's reaction, I know he can take a punch but that left hook can still brings the thunder as we saw against Mayorga.

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        • tito yuca
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          #24
          Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
          No.. but with the exception of ALi and Leonrad(both of who had no problem trading)
          Its the TYSONS, Trinidads,Gattis,Durans and such of the world Who have/had the massive FAN bases and media appeal...
          And look what happened to each of the four you mentioned when they got in the ring with more skilled and defensive-minded boxers with better timing and more controlled attacks. Fact is I don't give a **** about fan bases and media converage, since people are so obssessed with violence they embrace fighters like that, but those who really appreciate the sweet science now there is much more to it than brawling. Look at the last 4 #1 P4P fighters: Pernell Whitaker, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather. I think that says a lot, don't you?

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            #25
            Originally posted by tito yuca
            And look what happened to each of the four you mentioned when they got in the ring with more skilled and defensive-minded boxers with better timing and more controlled attacks. Fact is I don't give a **** about fan bases and media converage, since people are so obssessed with violence they embrace fighters like that, but those who really appreciate the sweet science now there is much more to it than brawling. Look at the last 4 #1 P4P fighters: Pernell Whitaker, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather. I think that says a lot, don't you?
            Great post!

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            • GunStar
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              #26
              Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
              No.. but with the exception of ALi and Leonrad(both of who had no problem trading)
              Its the TYSONS, Trinidads,Gattis,Durans and such of the world Who have/had the massive FAN bases and media appeal...
              Gatti's been on PPV only once and that was against PBF, he does not have a huge fan base!

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              • eazy_mas
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                #27
                Originally posted by tito yuca
                What an ignorant statement. These ****ed up ideas of masculinity have made tons of ingorants fools hurt each other throughout history.
                if the guy know he doesnt have the power to KO why slug with him.

                he is already a man enough that he has entered in the ring and signed the contract.

                some people have power and some have speed it who use them best it smart enough

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                • tito yuca
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Gunstar1
                  Gatti's been on PPV only once and that was against PBF, he does not have a huge fan base!
                  Nice stat.

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                  • tito yuca
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                    #29
                    I just remembered - I think the second Ward fight was on PPV. Am I wrong?

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                    • SnoopySmurf
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by King Reese
                      and people actually think Oscar stands a chance. It will be a replay of the Mayweather Gatti fight
                      Gatti is a C level fighter. Oscar is AAA gold standard. In fact, when Oscar fougth Gatti, he could have ended the fight sooner but decided to make a good sparring match of it instead.

                      Now, I'm a Gatti fan. I don't care much for Oscar but I have to admit the man is a great fighter.

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