Who gets more hate on this forum, Hatton or Floyd? LoL

[ELPacman]

Let's just say Floyd hasn't beaten anyone that the public would ever recognize as, THE MAN, at the proper weight. He goes through the easy "paper champs", that he knows he can't lose to just to add another title to his name. At least that's the way I've always seen him as. Undisputed champs are fighters Floyd would never take on. Kostya...Barrera...and I know there isn't really anyone undisputed at welterweight as much as we need to believe Floyd is, though there are plenty better fights than the ones he's gone through as mentioned a hundred times above. Cotto, Margarito, maybe Cintron, and the likes of Mosley(if he moved back down), at 147lbs and 140lbs respectively, would all give Floyd a challenge whether he goes through them easily or not. The problem is he'll never take risks to find out. Oscar is the first real risk I think he's taken and he's doing it for the money and he does have a good 70% chance at winning since Oscar isn't what he used to be. He knows this, Floyd is very smart outside of the ring as he is inside.

[ThaHorseman]

Let's just say Floyd hasn't beaten anyone that the public would ever recognize as, THE MAN, at the proper weight. He goes through the easy "paper champs", that he knows he can't lose to just to add another title to his name. At least that's the way I've always seen him as. Undisputed champs are fighters Floyd would never take on. Kostya...Barrera...and I know there isn't really anyone undisputed at welterweight as much as we need to believe Floyd is, though there are plenty better fights than the ones he's gone through as mentioned a hundred times above. Cotto, Margarito, maybe Cintron, and the likes of Mosley(if he moved back down), at 147lbs and 140lbs respectively, would all give Floyd a challenge whether he goes through them easily or not. The problem is he'll never take risks to find out. Oscar is the first real risk I think he's taken and he's doing it for the money and he does have a good 70% chance at winning since Oscar isn't what he used to be. He knows this, Floyd is very smart outside of the ring as he is inside.

A couple things I didn't understand about your post. Were you saying that Floyd should've fought Barrera? And Kostya? Barrera just started fighting at 130 a couple years ago, Floyd was already at 140. And when Floyd got to 140 he fought Corley in his 1st fight and then Kostya had lost to Hatton before his 2nd fight at 140. That is one of the times he tried fighting Hatton, who was then the undisputed champ at 140. He beat Genaro Hernandez for the Super Featherweight title when Hernandez was the champ, Castillo at 135 when he was considered the champ and Baldomir at 147 when he was considered the champ. So three of the four divisions he's overtaken have come by way of the champ in that division. As for your other point about the other fighters: why would you want to see Floyd waste his time "taking risks to find out"? The only guys he should fight are DLH, Mosley, Hatton and Cotto. Anyone else would be a waste of time and money cuz they wouldn't have a prayer in hell of winning.

[eazy_mas]

You're ****ing serious?

Lazcano, Harris, Cotto, Witter, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Collazo ****.

I could name them all day long.....all of them better challenges than the four you named. Bruseles? Gatti? Baldomir? LMFAO.

usually you got max of three to mostly 6 fight a year so lets see Lazcano was injuried for a long time and Harris was KOed by Maussa that was the same time as Floyd beaten Gatti ans Hatton and Cotto didnt want to fight Floyd.

okay her at 147 where Floyd wasnt that impressive but he beaten Sharmba ans Zab as well as Baldomir which you dont look hight too. but part of Willams hype came after the Sharmba fight and the rumors of him KOing Margarito on sparring. Cintron was still building his self esteem up there.

I would go with Margarito but after his poor performance against Clottey and Mayweather is much faster than Cloetty it would be clear what would be the answer if they fough as the his hype increased from wining Gomez in the 1 KO and Arum claims offering 8mil to floyd

Carlos "tata" Baldomir?

For one jackoff.....Lazcano was the first person to stop Stevie "lil but bad" Johnston and proved he was metal against Castillo. Witter and Harris were up and comers/underrated stars and hit road bumps in Judah and Maussa respectively...but nonetheless they've destroyed competition that surpasses a bunch of ****ing cab drivers in Argentina WHO BALDOMIR LOST TO.

Margarito is generally ranked the second best welter and for you to put him on the same level as Bruseles is ****ing ******ed.

some cab drivers really punch hard dont you think e****ally if he got some belt to prove it

[jai mari078]

I think people attach themselves to floyd because they enjoy his fights, who the **** cares what he says. thats like saying "HOW COULD YOU ATTACH YOURSELF TO SOMEONE LIKE CARMELO ANTHONY AFTER THE SUCKER PUNCH AGAINST THE KNICKS!"

half the atheles we know and love arent exactly the greatest people we have ever met, but none of that **** really means much in the grand scheme.

People enjoy his fights? half the crowd got up an walked out in his fight against Baldomir and booed him for his lack of excitement. he wins the same boaring decision every fight. Thats not hate it's just the truth.

[Famoso Matador]

I think floyd gets more hate and rightfully so, he fights sub par opposition and claims he is the best in the world. To be the best he has to fight the best, and he has not done that since he fought jose luis castillo.

[jai mari078]

Floyd easily.

Everyone is on Margarito's ****, even though he's only beat one top opponent. Baldomir beat 2 legitimate opponents. Baldomir was held as the true Welterweight champion.

I like Baldy but he was nothing more than a journeyman who got his fifteen minutes of fame and beat n underacheiving, underprepared overrated Judah who is never mentally right in the head. I love Arturo he is one of my favorite fighters but the truth is he is old and way past his prime, not to mention been through a thousand wars. I don't think that makes them elite fighters and Floyd didn't even beat Baldy impressively as limited as baldy is. he won a boaring track meet like always. He did exactly what everyone knew he could do and didn't do anything impressive. Against such a limited opponent he should have won more impressively.

[jai mari078]

I think floyd gets more hate and rightfully so, he fights sub par opposition and claims he is the best in the world. To be the best he has to fight the best, and he has not done that since he fought jose luis castillo.

AMEN!!!!! GOOD POST !!!!!!!!

[Young Legend]

PBF by far.

And I've only been here a day.

[El Jesus]

People enjoy his fights? half the crowd got up an walked out in his fight against Baldomir and booed him for his lack of excitement. he wins the same boaring decision every fight. Thats not hate it's just the truth.

People enjoyed the Gatti fight, People DEFINATELY (especially in the black community) enjoyed the Judah fight, people enjoyed the Mitchell fight, People enjoyed etc etc fight. One average fight against baldomir doesnt define an entire career.

If you wanna sit there and break down ONLY the negatives of each and every opponent that mayweather has faced. Then go ahead and put on any fight in this era, and i can garuntee you i can find flaws in ANYONES resume, the same way you seem to only see floyds resume in a negative light. Im not saying you should love the guy, since you make it a point that you clearly dont. But im not gonna sit here and pretend that all of his opponents posed no risk challange etc.

Im also not gonna sit here and not consider how many people DONT want to fight him at the same time.

Go ahead, name your favorite fighter, including ****in juan diaz, and i will break down their resume in only their negative side of it.

My point is, alot of people just take the easy road, OH HES FOUGHT NO ONE SINCE JOSE LUIS CASTILLO, when thats a heap of bull****, how the **** can you become 3 time lineal champion only fighting one guy. Be real with yourself. Im not saying every mayweather opponent was elite, but for all the garbage opponents, there are some good ones as well.