where does VALUEV rank on your p4p list? is he a all time great?

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    #11
    Originally posted by dino
    why is it a joke? i mean the guy is coming up on 50-0..whats all the sarcasim about?
    How ****** could this be?

    Brian Nielson was 50-0 untill he lost to ****ie Ryan. Let me see you make a case for him ever being ranked in the top ten or as an all time great.



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    • guru
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      #12
      i have him right behind Kimbo on my P4P list!!!!

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      • .Mik.
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        #13
        Considering how many pounds he has, I expect him to be knocking out elephants before he makes me top 10 list.

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        • Chups
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          #14
          He dislodges Primo Carnera as the greatest boxing giant of all time.



          **note that I said giant instead of freak.

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          • brownpimp88
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            #15
            valuev would tool carnera, who are we kidding. If valuev fought from 1928-1937, he would have been champ during the whole tenure.

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            • psychopath
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              #16
              ****i'n ******ed thread.

              Valuev can get a 100 victories for all I care but he won't ever be a p4p in my list. The guy doesn't have boxing skills, he's just too big for the competition.

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              • aljon
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                #17
                Originally posted by psychopath
                ****i'n ******ed thread.

                Valuev can get a 100 victories for all I care but he won't ever be a p4p in my list. The guy doesn't have boxing skills, he's just too big for the competition.
                If you say that then you haven't seen any of his fights, he's a good text book kind of fighter and seems to know a lot more about boxing than you guys think.
                As for the size I don't know why people complain about it or use it as an excuse when it's God given...

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                • .Mik.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by aljon
                  If you say that then you haven't seen any of his fights, he's a good text book kind of fighter and seems to know a lot more about boxing than you guys think.
                  As for the size I don't know why people complain about it or use it as an excuse when it's God given...
                  Indeed. It does seem that its more the case that his size hampers his style and speed, rather than him not having any ability.

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                  • psychopath
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by aljon
                    If you say that then you haven't seen any of his fights, he's a good text book kind of fighter and seems to know a lot more about boxing than you guys think.
                    As for the size I don't know why people complain about it or use it as an excuse when it's God given...
                    Complain? Did you see me complaining?

                    Yeah a text book fighter but not a P4P level fighter. I mentioned his size because that's the only thing that gives an advantage to get his victories. The "OLD VITALI" who fought Lewis can send this guiy down crashing to the canvas.

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                    • GattiFan
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                      #20
                      He's near the top...just behind Ivan Drago and just ahead of Eric Esch.

                      Hes the future of sucky, circus sideshow, ungainly, uncoordinated semi-boxers.

                      Seriously....the future. No one comes close.

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