Mark my word De La Hoya vs Mayweather will end in a draw!!!

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  • wmute
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    #41
    Originally posted by freedom213
    Not necessarily, 1 thing that would be smart is not let PBF get him into a cat and mouse and dictate a pace way too fast for Oscar. Oscar isn't used to fighting guys who can effectively box backwards, most of his recent fights have been against grade A opponents willing to meet him pretty much in the middle of the ring and exchange or at least willing to exchange a majority of the rounds, Mayweather takes the steam out of most guys by making them think they got a chance at chasin him down, wearin him down.

    Look at Corrales, he followed Floyd around and ate punches until he was so exhausted PBF owned his ass! Oscar must upon occasion stop followin,much like Sam Peter consciously did against Toney, and force Mayweather to come forward and meet him.
    it is not a bad idea, but it would take some physical effort, too

    ok say oscar stops chasing floyd for a second,
    what happens then?
    floyd snaps in a jab and gets out of range.
    what will oscar do when this happens?
    1. time floyd to counter him with a right, which is doubt is going to work since shoulder roll works a beauty with rights
    2. jab over floyd's jab or jab as floyd moves in. given floyd's speed, oscar's jab better be double----> tiring.

    what peter did, working behind the jab was a good idea, but toney is now what? 37 (and he looked 37 in peter 2). floyd's stamina is among the very best in the game.

    btw do you think that was buddy's idea for gatti? of course gatti was not the ideal fighter to take out the plan

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    • wmute
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      #42
      Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
      i think oscar's gonna be obviously slower, but hes gonna be wiser than floyd. oscar will use sharp quick head movements to avoid floyds serious punches, use technique and counters to beat floyd. think ali in the mid to late 70s, slow but durable, calm, and smart.
      moving too much on his feet, instead of his upper body has been a traditional weakness of oscarand a reason for his getting tired in the late rounds.

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      • wmute
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        #43
        Originally posted by j
        responding to the title here, a draw would not surprise me at all.


        as for the blueprint on beating pbf, well i have a few formulas. each one deals with what mayweather is performing - and when since he is fairly good at changing his gameplan to suite his opponent.

        generally, if you can pressure floyd into a corner, you will likely have some success. getting him there is another obstacle.

        uppercuts should be a key. floyd likes to dip down by bending at the waist and a bit with the knees. a lot of floyd's opponents have tried to swing wide on him when he does that, but hitting him as he's dipping down from a horizontal angle is definitely not the best choice as the window for that punch is minimal. uppercuts will work well in that situation and followed by some bodywork. the other way around should work as well.
        sounds very reasonable

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        • TheEvilSaint
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          #44
          Originally posted by wmute
          moving too much on his feet, instead of his upper body has been a traditional weakness of oscarand a reason for his getting tired in the late rounds.
          well, his fight with mayorga was not traditional oscar.

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            #45
            Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
            well, his fight with mayorga was not traditional oscar.
            true to some extent, (did not look exactly like james toney in good shape, relaxing under Jirov's fire)! but we are talking about dodgin lil floyd crisp, fast punches here, no mayorga trying to get lucky.

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            • RisAri0
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              #46
              a fight with all this hype and the magnitude....any DECISION will be controversial...unless its KO or TKO of course...

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              • Bonafide
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                #47
                Originally posted by meldubb
                I have a feeling this fight will be a draw with some people feeling that de la hoya won. Your opinions

                I may be one of the few that thinks this fight will be boring.

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                • jai mari078
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                  here's how i see and how i have been seeing it for a long time now. floyd will stun oscar early, mark my words. forget about who will have the better stamina because they both will train hard for the fight, and floyd spars 15 rounds in training camp, and oscar runs like a madman in his camp, it will come down to strategy.

                  floyd is going to whoop oscar's ass. oscar's left hook is always dangerous but i believe he will look for it too early and floyd will counter him perfectly. what poeple seem to forget is that floyd has a left hook as well. it may be not be as hard as oscar's but trust me, he will land it more than oscar will. i guarantee it. floyd will dominate oscar. you guys can believe what you want about floyd running all night, but i promise everybody on this forum that floyd will embarras the living hell out of oscar. they both have great boxing technoque but floyd is faster, and that is where it counts the most. oscar is bigger, but floyd is faster and has much better defense. now that osacr isn't using floyd sr., he is really screwed. he should have swallowed his pride and paid him the 2 million dollars, because he is really in some trouble now, because floyd is a much smarter fighter than oscar and we all will see this may 5, watch and see. oscar is done. floyd by a clear cut unanimous decision and oscar's face will look horrible, trust me. will not hurt floyd, not by a longshot. and you guy wonder why floyd goes into his fights so confident, because his gameplan is always on point, and he adjusts better than anybody in the sport. oscar is done, floyd wins this fight. deal with it if you don't believe me. i can't to watch this fight.
                  Big surprise that something like this would come from someone that has PBF in there screen name. Like you would ever be objective about any topic on floyd with a screen name like this. You people ar gonna be real dissapointed when you find out that Floysd is not just gonna walk through Oscar and for the first time in his career he will have a real fight on his hands. Floyd is not gonna dominate Oscar at 154. Open your eyes and try to be a liitle more objective nut hugger. For you to think that Floyd is just gonna dominate Oscar is ignorant.

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                  • Addison
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hot Topic
                    Hmm, I have a lot of feelings but atleast I explain them.
                    Ahaha.

                    I agree with that.

                    For me I think it's either an Oscar KO or a Floyd dec.

                    For obvious reasons..

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                    • Lords Gym
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                      #50
                      They could milk this thing for another couple of fights ! Yeah a draw is very likely . I hope the outcome is more concrete.. I really hate draws, Draws are way to common . A judge need to watch the round and pick a winner, very rarely is there an even round, if you truly paying attention to the match !

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