James Toney Admits He Used Steroids

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  • Deeznuts
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    #11
    Hey if he knew, than he should of waited and healed naturally.

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    • badblood
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      #12
      Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA
      Ok...and without the proper hormone level all the things you have said are slowed drastically there for the roids being used as medication would ony correct this and would put on even terms with his opponent .
      Anyway let me find out more about it before we go on . I understand the rules and know what you mean . There may be other things that he could use .
      ^^^^never mind that part I know rules are rules, I just feel bad for him because it's not his fault that he neds something of the sort .
      He cheated and got caught.

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        #13
        ah, so they ARE testing on the presence of a chemical and not just testing on Test levels.

        One would think ultimately it's more important that Test levels be in a normal, healthy human range instead of just catching anyone who tests positive for a particular chemical.

        That's not to say Toney's Test levels were normal at the time.

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        Low test levels mean that you don't recover from gym workouts in a timely fashion, that you don't gain & maintain muscle & strength like a normal person. Hormones are a tricky thing. I've messed around with Tribulus and other pro hormones. I can definitely say there's a huge difference between low Test levels and being at the higher end of normal (but not illegal).

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          #14
          Originally posted by Pork Chop
          ah, so they ARE testing on the presence of a chemical and not just testing on Test levels.

          One would think ultimately it's more important that Test levels be in a normal, healthy human range instead of just catching anyone who tests positive for a particular chemical.

          That's not to say Toney's Test levels were normal at the time.
          Yes, thank you that was what I was getting at .
          Originally posted by Deeznuts
          Hey if he knew, than he should of waited and healed naturally.
          I don't walk in his shoes ....He would have beat Ruiz with one hand tied behind his back. He's a champ to me no matter what .

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            #15
            Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA
            I don't walk in his shoes ....He would have beat Ruiz with one hand tied behind his back. He's a champ to me no matter what .
            Does that mean Barry Bonds is the all time single season HR leader to you?

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              #16
              Originally posted by badblood
              Does that mean Barry Bonds is the all time single season HR leader to you?
              Truthfully YES .....If Mr.Spitball Cy Young himself is held in such regard then why not ?

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                #17
                I bet he fought his whole careerto dedicate it to you. Even though he never beat a top 10 HW and in this era that's pretty sad.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Deeznuts
                  I bet he fought his whole careerto dedicate it to you. Even though he never beat a top 10 HW and in this era that's pretty sad.
                  You think ? Man that would be cool !

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Deeznuts
                    Hey if he knew, than he should of waited and healed naturally.
                    the fight with ruiz was supposed to take place at a later date

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Deeznuts
                      I bet he fought his whole careerto dedicate it to you. Even though he never beat a top 10 HW and in this era that's pretty sad.
                      I dont think there is anything sad in campaining in at HW at age 35+, (beating a champ in the ring in the process, being robbed in your next to last fight) especially when it is just the cherry on a career, who saw you a multiple division champion, and a two times lineal champion. who started his career at middleweght.

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