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  • Left2body
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    #21
    I think many might be taking some of the things Winky and Hopkins did to Tito too far. Those were bigger stronger guys. I never bought into Tito being a true middleweight, while he still had power he just wasn't that physically strong at that weight.

    At 154 and especially 147lbs Tito is a beast, very powerful and very strong. Remember also that Tito is a two handed fighter who is a natural righty.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Left2body
      I think many might be taking some of the things Winky and Hopkins did to Tito too far. Those were bigger stronger guys. I never bought into Tito being a true middleweight, while he still had power he just wasn't that physically strong at that weight.

      At 154 and especially 147lbs Tito is a beast, very powerful and very strong. Remember also that Tito is a two handed fighter who is a natural righty.
      I went with Hearns because he was the better fighter, by far, at 154. I would go with Tito at 147, since Tito is an ATG at WW.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Left2body
        I think many might be taking some of the things Winky and Hopkins did to Tito too far. Those were bigger stronger guys. I never bought into Tito being a true middleweight, while he still had power he just wasn't that physically strong at that weight.

        At 154 and especially 147lbs Tito is a beast, very powerful and very strong. Remember also that Tito is a two handed fighter who is a natural righty.
        Hearns had a ton of power and was able to out box SRL for long amounts of time . I just don't Tito can box with him but as far as a brawl it can go either way .

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          #24
          Originally posted by Kaynan
          I went with Hearns because he was the better fighter, by far, at 154. I would go with Tito at 147, since Tito is an ATG at WW.
          I'm not saying Tito would win just that some of the stuff Winky and Hopkins were succesful doing wouldn't necessarily work against Tito at 147lbs. Peek abo defense against Tito at 147lbs would lead to cracked ribs IMHO.

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            1. WHAT IS THE BEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE? Mayweather-Sharmbe Mitchell
            2. BIGGEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE?....DO YOU HAVE ANY KIDS" No
            3. ARE YOU MARRIED? No
            4. WHERE WERE U BORN? Ashland, Oregon
            5. NICEST FIGHTER U HAVE MET? I met Leon Taylor at a local show, he was training a female fighter. He was a real nice dude, he fought Tony Tubbs and beat Al Cole once.
            6. NOT SO NICE FIGHTER U HAVE MET? N/A
            7. FIGHTER YOU MET WHO WAS DIFFERENT THAN U THOUGHT HE WOULD BE? N/A
            8. FIGHTER YOU WOULD LOVE TO MEET AND TALK WITH?... Hatton, seems like a cool dude.
            9. BEST VENUE U HAVE BEEN TO FOR A FIGHT?.... Reno Events Center
            10. BEST PLACE U HAVE VISITED, PERIOD?.. Japan and Amsterdam
            11. WORST PLACE?......ETC? I guess Tiujuana
            12. Was Ali a "coward" for not going to Vietnam? No, war is hell
            13. Have you ever boxed pro? No
            14. Or as an amateur? Yes, just a couple fights
            15. or in the backyard with your friends? Yes
            16. Is there something about you that people on here could be told and they would be surprised at? Probably not
            17. Who is your favorite boxer EVER? I always thought hagler was the ****.
            18. Who is your favorite boxer NOW? It constantly changes but I like Pacquio at the moment.
            19. Who wins: Hearns or Tito at 154? I'm gonna say Hearns
            20. Ever been to Madison Square Garden? No
            21. Ever met Ali? And if so... was it as surreal, spiritual, cool as most say it was?? Can't say I have.
            22. Ever met Sugar Ray Robinson?? No
            23. Have you ever been in a street fight? Yup
            24. Have you ever slept on a beach over night? Yes
            25. Have you ever met a U.S. President? No
            26. Have you ever met Smokin' Joe Frazier? No
            27. Ever ran up the "Rocky steps" in Philadelphia?? No, never been to Phili
            28. Ever met Reuben "Hurricane" Carter? Nope
            29. Ever been in a serious car accident? Not really, was never injured too bad in a car wreck
            30. Ever had someone on the internet (chat room, message board, etc) want to meet you in person to fight???? Nah

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #26
              ICEY ANSWERS........

              1. WHAT IS THE BEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE? Bowe-Holyfield, the first one. Plus Bronco McKart-Aaron Davis at Foxwoods.
              2. BIGGEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE? Holyfield-Bowe...Jones-Toney.
              3. ARE YOU MARRIED? Yes, to my "first girlfriend," first met in 6th grade, 1978.
              4. WHERE WERE U BORN? Hartford, CT.
              5. NICEST FIGHTER U HAVE MET? Several stand out. Corrales was real cool. Micky Ward is the most down to earth fighter out there.
              6. NOT SO NICE FIGHTER U HAVE MET? Dealt with Gary Hinton and his boys at a K-Mart back in 87... didn't have good impression of him.. same goes for Sweet Pea.
              7. FIGHTER YOU MET WHO WAS DIFFERENT THAN U THOUGHT HE WOULD BE? James Toney. We are pretty good friends now. When I met him back in 1993 he was MUCH different than I thought he would be. Same goes for my man Vinny Paz. Vinny is one of the coolest down to earth guys u will meet in this game. He loves the fans.
              8. FIGHTER YOU WOULD LOVE TO MEET AND TALK WITH? I met Ali and got to shadowbox and speak with him for a little while. That beats anybody BUT I wish I could have done so with Cassius Clay, too.
              9. BEST VENUE U HAVE BEEN TO FOR A FIGHT?....Blue Horizon probably. The fans there make it good, the set up...it's like going to a fight in a warehouse, an underground fighter that the cops will come into any minute and arrest everybody
              10. BEST PLACE U HAVE VISITED, PERIOD? I loved a lot of places. Puerto Rico, of course. Munich.
              11. WORST PLACE? Well, it wouldn't bother me all that much if i never go back to.... Cleveland. LOL
              12. Was Ali a "coward" for not going to Vietnam? Man, he couldn't even eat in some restaurants back home. Go and fight for WHAT freedom???
              13. Have you ever boxed pro? Yes.
              14. Or as an amateur? Yes, for several years.
              15. or in the backyard with your friends? That's basically where I got my start!! LOL I was 9-0 with 6 stoppages.
              16. Is there something about you that people on here could be told and they would be surprised at? I have never tasted alcohol in my life, never smoked a cigarette and never did a drug before.
              17. Who is your favorite boxer EVER? Muhammad Ali
              18. Who is your favorite boxer NOW? Don't really have one come to think of it.
              19. Who wins: Hearns or Tito at 154? HEARNS was a killer, man. Wicked jab, awesome right hand, terrifying killer instinct. If he had a guy like Tito that he could hit with the jab like that so easily... at 154, when Tommy was young... Tommy BROUGHT IT every time.. in a fight like that I think he slaughters Tito early. Remember this is each man at his best.. and Tito's best doesn't compare to Tommy's best20. Ever been to Madison Square Garden? Several times (Cotto-Malinaggi, Jones-Sosa, Leonard-Norris)
              21. Ever met Ali? And if so... was it as surreal, spiritual, cool as most say it was?? YES, yes, and yes. It was very, very different from meeting or even seeing any other person up close, no matter how famous.
              22. Ever met Sugar Ray Robinson?? Nope.
              23. Have you ever been in a street fight? Two when I was about 12. Nothing big at all.
              24. Have you ever slept on a beach over night? Yup. In Pensacola in 2003.
              25. Have you ever met a U.S. President? Never even seen one in person
              26. Have you ever met Smokin' Joe Frazier? Several times. I am friends with his son, Marvis.Sat with Joe two or three summers ago in his office and talked for along time. 27. Ever ran up the "Rocky steps" in Philadelphia?? Many times. I got to the top and did what everybody did. Put my hands up, jumped around, shadowboxed. Nobody even gives u a second look there28. Ever met Reuben Hurricane Carter? Never. Saw him at a dinner once but never spoke him.29. Ever been in a serious car accident? Thankfully, No. Couple of minor ones, though. 30. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIDS? Yes, two year old baby Sarita
              31. Ever had someone on the internet (chat room, message board, etc) want to meet you in person to fight???? One time this idiot BUMPERFROGGY on AOL said he actually came to my gym (2.5 hour drive from his home LOL) to fight me...and I was out of town sparring at a different gym that day. He tried to surprise me LOL

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                #27
                ive heard whitaker is a bit of A ****

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                  ICEY ANSWERS........

                  1. WHAT IS THE BEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE? Bowe-Holyfield, the first one. Plus Bronco McKart-Aaron Davis at Foxwoods.
                  2. BIGGEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE? Holyfield-Bowe...Jones-Toney.
                  3. ARE YOU MARRIED? Yes, to my "first girlfriend," first met in 6th grade, 1978.
                  4. WHERE WERE U BORN? Hartford, CT.
                  5. NICEST FIGHTER U HAVE MET? Several stand out. Corrales was real cool. Micky Ward is the most down to earth fighter out there.
                  6. NOT SO NICE FIGHTER U HAVE MET? Dealt with Gary Hinton and his boys at a K-Mart back in 87... didn't have good impression of him.. same goes for Sweet Pea.
                  7. FIGHTER YOU MET WHO WAS DIFFERENT THAN U THOUGHT HE WOULD BE? James Toney. We are pretty good friends now. When I met him back in 1993 he was MUCH different than I thought he would be. Same goes for my man Vinny Paz. Vinny is one of the coolest down to earth guys u will meet in this game. He loves the fans.
                  8. FIGHTER YOU WOULD LOVE TO MEET AND TALK WITH? I met Ali and got to shadowbox and speak with him for a little while. That beats anybody BUT I wish I could have done so with Cassius Clay, too.
                  9. BEST VENUE U HAVE BEEN TO FOR A FIGHT?....Blue Horizon probably. The fans there make it good, the set up...it's like going to a fight in a warehouse, an underground fighter that the cops will come into any minute and arrest everybody
                  10. BEST PLACE U HAVE VISITED, PERIOD? I loved a lot of places. Puerto Rico, of course. Munich.
                  11. WORST PLACE? Well, it wouldn't bother me all that much if i never go back to.... Cleveland. LOL
                  12. Was Ali a "coward" for not going to Vietnam? Man, he couldn't even eat in some restaurants back home. Go and fight for WHAT freedom???
                  13. Have you ever boxed pro? Yes.
                  14. Or as an amateur? Yes, for several years.
                  15. or in the backyard with your friends? That's basically where I got my start!! LOL I was 9-0 with 6 stoppages.
                  16. Is there something about you that people on here could be told and they would be surprised at? I have never tasted alcohol in my life, never smoked a cigarette and never did a drug before.
                  17. Who is your favorite boxer EVER? Muhammad Ali
                  18. Who is your favorite boxer NOW? Don't really have one come to think of it.
                  19. Who wins: Hearns or Tito at 154? HEARNS was a killer, man. Wicked jab, awesome right hand, terrifying killer instinct. If he had a guy like Tito that he could hit with the jab like that so easily... at 154, when Tommy was young... Tommy BROUGHT IT every time.. in a fight like that I think he slaughters Tito early. Remember this is each man at his best.. and Tito's best doesn't compare to Tommy's best20. Ever been to Madison Square Garden? Several times (Cotto-Malinaggi, Jones-Sosa, Leonard-Norris)
                  21. Ever met Ali? And if so... was it as surreal, spiritual, cool as most say it was?? YES, yes, and yes. It was very, very different from meeting or even seeing any other person up close, no matter how famous.
                  22. Ever met Sugar Ray Robinson?? Nope.
                  23. Have you ever been in a street fight? Two when I was about 12. Nothing big at all.
                  24. Have you ever slept on a beach over night? Yup. In Pensacola in 2003.
                  25. Have you ever met a U.S. President? Never even seen one in person
                  26. Have you ever met Smokin' Joe Frazier? Several times. I am friends with his son, Marvis.Sat with Joe two or three summers ago in his office and talked for along time. 27. Ever ran up the "Rocky steps" in Philadelphia?? Many times. I got to the top and did what everybody did. Put my hands up, jumped around, shadowboxed. Nobody even gives u a second look there28. Ever met Reuben Hurricane Carter? Never. Saw him at a dinner once but never spoke him.29. Ever been in a serious car accident? Thankfully, No. Couple of minor ones, though. 30. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIDS? Yes, two year old baby Sarita
                  31. Ever had someone on the internet (chat room, message board, etc) want to meet you in person to fight???? One time this idiot BUMPERFROGGY on AOL said he actually came to my gym (2.5 hour drive from his home LOL) to fight me...and I was out of town sparring at a different gym that day. He tried to surprise me LOL
                  you married to your first girlfriend eh? i cant even remember my first girlfriend

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                  • The Raging Bull
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                    #29
                    1. WHAT IS THE BEST FIGHT U HAVE BEEN TO LIVE? Only been to amateur events
                    2. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIDS? Nope
                    3. ARE YOU MARRIED? Nope
                    4. WHERE WERE U BORN? Liverpool, England
                    5. NICEST FIGHTER U HAVE MET? Johnny Nelson
                    6. NOT SO NICE FIGHTER U HAVE MET? Erm, the few I have met have all been nice
                    7. FIGHTER YOU MET WHO WAS DIFFERENT THAN U THOUGHT HE WOULD BE? John Conteh
                    8. FIGHTER YOU WOULD LOVE TO MEET AND TALK WITH?... Muhammad Ali
                    9. BEST VENUE U HAVE BEEN TO FOR A FIGHT?.... Just amateur venues lol
                    10. BEST PLACE U HAVE VISITED, PERIOD?.. Spain, Barcelona
                    11. WORST PLACE?......ETC? Dundee, Scotland
                    12. Was Ali a "coward" for not going to Vietnam? No
                    13. Have you ever boxed pro? No
                    14. Or as an amateur? Not yet.
                    15. or in the backyard with your friends? Yes
                    16. Is there something about you that people on here could be told and they would be surprised at? Don't think so tbh
                    17. Who is your favorite boxer EVER? Muhammad Ali
                    18. Who is your favorite boxer NOW? Tough one. Vanes, Floyd or Calzaghe
                    19. Who wins: Hearns or Tito at 154? Hearns
                    20. Ever been to Madison Square Garden? No. Will be soon though
                    21. Ever met Ali? And if so... was it as surreal, spiritual, cool as most say it was?? I wish
                    22. Ever met Sugar Ray Robinson?? Naa
                    23. Have you ever been in a street fight? Yes
                    24. Have you ever slept on a beach over night? Ye lol
                    25. Have you ever met a U.S. President? No
                    26. Have you ever met Smokin' Joe Frazier? No
                    27. Ever ran up the "Rocky steps" in Philadelphia?? No
                    28. Ever met Reuben "Hurricane" Carter? Nope
                    29. Ever been in a serious car accident? Yes
                    30. Ever had someone on the internet (chat room, message board, etc) want to meet you in person to fight???? Yep haha (E-warriors)

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                      #30
                      I should have said for 'boxers that you've met' my uncle was a amature but I don't know how far he went. Steve Monigold

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