Possibly an old question, but should the first Big Len-McCall bout be regarded as NC?

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  • !! Anorak
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    Possibly an old question, but should the first Big Len-McCall bout be regarded as NC?

    I was reading an interview with McCall's old trainer in Boxing Monthly the other day.

    He basically stated (like I said, I'm sure this is old news) that McCall was juiced for a multiple number of bouts throughout his career, and they covered it up by getting someone else to pee for him.

    If this is the case should Big Len-McCall I (and, by association, Big Len-McCall II) be regarded as NC?
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    Originally posted by !! Anorak
    I was reading an interview with McCall's old trainer in Boxing Monthly the other day.

    He basically stated (like I said, I'm sure this is old news) that McCall was juiced for a multiple number of bouts throughout his career, and they covered it up by getting someone else to pee for him.

    If this is the case should Big Len-McCall I (and, by association, Big Len-McCall II) be regarded as NC?
    Moot point in that Lennox is retired has nothing left to prove and has no plans on returning to the ring. If he was still active, maybe there would be some motive for lobbying to change the loss to a NC. Kirk Johnson recently and successfully lobbied to change one of his losses to a no-decision. It was prudent for him to do it because the loss affected his world ranking and he still is active.

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    • GEOFFHAYES
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      #3
      It's not like Lennox wasn't juiced himself.. or anybody else for that matter

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      • Hydro
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        #4
        No.

        People talk a lot.

        Some of it may be true, some not.

        But you should only change a fight's outcome on drug use after the test, not years later when people talk.

        should be take back some of tommy morrison's wins since he stated he was on it?

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #5
          If it was as easy as getting someone to piss for you, then every fighter would be on steroids. You'd be cheating yourself if you didn't use them. I don't buy it at all.

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          • Drunken Cat
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            I dont think you could warrent changing the results just based on the word of an old trainer. I mean, regardless of how reliable a source he is, I feel like you need definative proof, such as can be provided by a drug test. You never know, his trainer could have beef with McCall now, or something. Like I said, he probably is a good source, but you cant prove the guy guilty based on the words of one witness.

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