Sam Peter vs. Nicolay Valuev

[The Surgeon]

I'm not saying Peter can't.. a part of me says he will, while a part of me says, wait I don't know enough about both guys to make that call.

Thats fair enough, but u hav to admit if anybody beats Giagantor its the 2 I mentioned and i really hope 1 of them duz!

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Thats fair enough, but u hav to admit if anybody beats Giagantor its the 2 I mentioned and i really hope 1 of them duz!

Wlad sure will..

But it would take a good boxer to outbox and beat him...

You don't have to fight him with force. Both Valuev and Peter are punchers and when this is the case, this is a pick 'em fight.
Same goes if Brewster was to fight him (although Brewster may have had a better chance as he has good speed and accuracy)

Sly prime Byrd would have taken Valuev to apart.
RJJ at HW would have toyed with him..

Do you understand my point?

[The Surgeon]

Wlad sure will..

But it would take a good boxer to outbox and beat him...

You don't have to fight him with force. Both Valuev and Peter are punchers and when this is the case, this is a pick 'em fight.
Same goes if Brewster was to fight him (although Brewster may have had a better chance as he has good speed and accuracy)

Sly prime Byrd would have taken Valuev to apart.
RJJ at HW would have toyed with him..

Do you understand my point?

I hear ya but i dont feel ya! No offence. I can see why u would say that stuff tho. Valuev aint Really a puncher, not like Peter anyway. I think to beat him u need real fire power like Peter or good size and skills like Donald but ideally both like Klitschko!

[ferocity]

If they fought, who wins?

Peters showed me in the Toney fight that if Peters continues the way he is going, by that i mean learning in the ring everyday, adding to his skills, and stays in shape, he can be the top guy at Heavyweight and this includes beating Valuez. I would actually like to see Peters box for a full round, shooting that jab, as he did the last few seconds in the Toney fight he looked like a totally different fighter a better fighter. If he can keep adding to his game, maybe even add some boxing, keep improving his jab, Peters will be difficult to beat. The combination Peters but together were really good too, or at least he was able to put good combos together this time.

[!!Captain]

Valuev has a pretty good jab and is really big. Peter will have a much harder time landing on Valuev because of that, unlike Toney, Valuev's jab can do damage. Even Toney's jab busted Peter's face in their first fight, Klitschko busted Peter up with his jab, Valuev can do the same. Besides, Valuev was never down on the canvas before. Yes, he was shaken, but name one boxer who wasn't shaken in his career. That should account for something, at least. I think it would be a very interesting fight, Valuev tends to go forward and unload when hit/hurt. I would like to see the McCline fight first but overall, it would be a very competitive fight. Unfortunately, it'll never happen, as Don King owns both of them and will allow Peter to fight Valuev only if he loses to Maskaev and chances of that are slim to none.

[beez721]

If they fought, who wins?

valuev is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I can see a boxer with speed and movement beating him like larry donald who got robbed from what I hear. but Im not so sure about him losing to a guy who relies mostly on pure strength as no one is going to be able to just overpower valuev,,,hes just too massive at over 300 lbs. its going to take both speed and technique in my opinion. I really dont know who would win this one,,,tough one to call

[Guest]

The height/reach thing is always going to be somewhat of an issue if your fighting Valuev but if Sam can stay away and pick and choose his punches he probably would get this fight..

THis is true for most heavies who won't have the power to hurt Valuev's body... I suspect Peter could hurt Valuev's body.

I picked Peter, but I'm not sure if I'm overrating him after watching him UD a rapidly fading not-really-a-heavyweight.

[psychopath]

I'm picking Peter to win this if it happens.

Peter was able to do good against Toney's hand and foot speed so I don't see why he can't make good against Valuev's which maybe 3 times slower than Toney's.

I can see Peter sneaking some power shots that will seriously hurt the big guy.

[chabobo66]

ven though I'm not a Peter fan:
Man, I hate Valuev just for the fact that he has all the advantages of weight and height and still has trouble with some opponents. When you talk about a guy that has about 100# weight advantage and can't even knock our Ruiz, goes 11 rounds with Berret. He's a peice of ****. It's like putting in a average Heavyweight against a light weight. Who would you put your money on? Get that dumb ass out of there and retire him.

[butterfly1964]

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