James Toney stuns Sam Peter

[Kid Achilles]

2:26 of the 5th round, Peter hits Toney with a hard overhand right and Toney is so out of it he grabs onto the tope rope with his right hand and is unable to let go, so thoroughly rocked is he, that Peter follows up with another right hand. Toney still doesn't let go. He is like a man who's grabbed a live wire and, in the process of being electrocuted, is unable to let go.

A thinking, clear headed fighter would be defending himself with both hands, not clutching onto a rope for support.

I would definitely call that being staggered it's just that there was a rope nearby for Toney to grab onto to keep his balance.

Then for the next 30-40 seconds, Toney retreats, is knocked off balance by a jab, and holds repeatedly anyone Peter gets close. That is what I call a hurt fighter.

He looked pretty out on his feet to me. What was he doing standing there gripping the rope and not defending himself or trying to counter Peter if he was merely stunned? I would say he was in clear danger and if that punch landed in the center of the ring, who knows what would have happened. That was by far the most hurt I've ever seen Toney. He was more hurt there than he was in the knockdowns suffered at the hands of Roy Jones and Reggie Johnson. All my opinion of course.

Peter by that margin is crazy, but I think having Toney that far ahead is crazy as well. Peter snagged a lot of the close rounds for me on account of how easily he pushed Toney back with his heavy jab and cross. When a fighter knock san opponent back with his punches, each of those punches should count more than several stinging shots that do not halt an opponent's advances. In my opinion anyway.

All the same **** I later said here, none of it defending Toney or changing my stance or anything. Close fight but Peter won.

It's been nice owning you, but I'm off to the gym now.

[Lights0ut]

It's been nice owning you,

You mean owning yourself, bitchboy. Not a single ****ing word about Peter winning just as I said. Consider youself EXPOSED. That's why you're running away like a girl to the "gym". (Even though I know you're still reading this).

[PBDS]

Show me where you said it asswipe. Here's the thread

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum/showthread.php?t=3261&page=4

You're a *****. You act one way on their messageboard, and another way here. The true definition of a loser.

....Your partialy right about Kid not saying that specifically, but he argues that Toney was hurt and debates that with the posters you say he respects too much to argue with. He doesn't come out and say that Peter won but it's obviously implied.

[Lights0ut]

He doesn't come out and say that Peter won

Which was precisely my point. You should see the way he posts over there, compared to the way he posts here. He's a fraud.

[boxer2k5]

or how about the one where sam peters is around 10 pounds thinner this time around and wont be tired out before the 5th round thats a great clip

what the hell are you talking about
peter has been under 250 a few times
and still tire. the workrate he has to keep
up to out work toney he will get tired no matter
what.

[Piggu]

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[Red_Menace]

I think both guys are in better shape for this fight, so I can't make a decision. Both guys should have more power and more stamina.

[boxer2k5]

but peter still cant box

[beez721]

Just a little reminder of the abuse Toney laid on Peter in the first fight, as he backs Peter up with a triple left hook along the ropes. Expect a lot more of these moments Saturday night.

lol,,,where in the hell there did peter ever look stunned? he got hit totally clean by counters and still didnt budge. you huggers are hilarious

[Pretty Boy1]

I think everyone should stop running their mouth about weights etc... until the weigh in. When the weigh in happens you'll see both fighters physique and weight then you can make an accurate prediction of who's arrived in shape. This back and forth my opinion is better than yours BS is getting tiresome! I personally hope Toney puts on a performance and stops Peter and go on to become a player in this dismal heavyweight division. I'm behind Toney but I was behind Peter when he fought Wladimir Klitschko and look what happened there!!