Edwin Valero fight...Courtesy of Pacland

[ELPacman]

Upped by Chups... http://www.**********.com/?d=AYTFIYR8 Dunno how he got it so fast. Use VLC player to play it. Lata.

Just watched it. Letme say, you won't discover anything out of this fight because the guy he faced ******. He didn't do anything at all. Just ate 1 or 2 bombs until it was over. And...video quality is great thanks to it all being 1 round! NICE!

[RAESAAD]

Thanks man.........

[ELPacman]

Well, now that it's available to view, anyone wanna discuss their thoughts on him..? I personally thought you can't go by anything on him with this fight as it showcased nothing.

[Njord777]

Well, now that it's available to view, anyone wanna discuss their thoughts on him..? I personally thought you can't go by anything on him with this fight as it showcased nothing.

I'm posting this in every ****ing thread about Valero. This is the third today. It sums up everything I have to say on the guy :


9-4-2. (Micheal Lozado)
21-8-1. (Genaro Trazancos)
17-8-6. (Hero Bando)
1-6 <----What? (Jose Hernandez)
0-9 <----WHAT?? (Edgar Mendoza)
2-8. (Danny Sandoval)

These are 6 records of fighters he beat. Look at those numbers. He knocked out a guy who was 0-9 in the first round. Hmm. Everyone starts out fighting chumps but Valerio is doing it just to gain notoriety. That top record of 29-4-2 is of his last opponent. These men come from all over the world- Colombia, Venezuela, Japan, Panama. Oh wait, want to see the American he fought? :

Emmanuel Ford: 6-27-3. 6 wins. 27 losses. 3 draws. Six wins to 27 losses.

These aren't just fighters from his backyard. He is targeting chumps. Please, please tell me someone else sees that it is VERY premature to say Valero has the best bet to beat Manny. Pacquiao has been fighting Marco Antonio Barreras and Erik Morales'- not guys with 9 losses and not a SINGLE win. That's more than a chump fighter- that's a ****ing joke fight. Can someone else back me in saying people are getting excited about this guy WAY to soon? He's a product of good handlers- a fighter built by hype. Take him for what he is.

A guy with power and yet not real experience against even a 'B' level fighter. ****....maybe not even against a 'C' level fighter. FAR too soon to even speak of him fighting Pac-man. Let's see him in the ring with someone who has a decent record first, alright? ****.

I'd also like to point out, just for example, Valero's American fight against Emmanuel Ford- Ford has been knocked out 6 times in the 1st round. Edwin was not alone. Think they knew?
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The only thing I amend is that, it was brought to my attention, many believe Valero has merit based on the Vincente fight.....so maybe he's fought one decent fighter. 99% of his opposition has been horrid, though.

[ELPacman]

I'm posting this in every ****ing thread about Valero. This is the third today. It sums up everything I have to say on the guy :


9-4-2. (Micheal Lozado)
21-8-1. (Genaro Trazancos)
17-8-6. (Hero Bando)
1-6 <----What? (Jose Hernandez)
0-9 <----WHAT?? (Edgar Mendoza)
2-8. (Danny Sandoval)

These are 6 records of fighters he beat. Look at those numbers. He knocked out a guy who was 0-9 in the first round. Hmm. Everyone starts out fighting chumps but Valerio is doing it just to gain notoriety. That top record of 29-4-2 is of his last opponent. These men come from all over the world- Colombia, Venezuela, Japan, Panama. Oh wait, want to see the American he fought? :

Emmanuel Ford: 6-27-3. 6 wins. 27 losses. 3 draws. Six wins to 27 losses.

These aren't just fighters from his backyard. He is targeting chumps. Please, please tell me someone else sees that it is VERY premature to say Valero has the best bet to beat Manny. Pacquiao has been fighting Marco Antonio Barreras and Erik Morales'- not guys with 9 losses and not a SINGLE win. That's more than a chump fighter- that's a ****ing joke fight. Can someone else back me in saying people are getting excited about this guy WAY to soon? He's a product of good handlers- a fighter built by hype. Take him for what he is.

A guy with power and yet not real experience against even a 'B' level fighter. ****....maybe not even against a 'C' level fighter. FAR too soon to even speak of him fighting Pac-man. Let's see him in the ring with someone who has a decent record first, alright? ****.

I'd also like to point out, just for example, Valero's American fight against Emmanuel Ford- Ford has been knocked out 6 times in the 1st round. Edwin was not alone. Think they knew?
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The only thing I amend is that, it was brought to my attention, many believe Valero has merit based on the Vincente fight.....so maybe he's fought one decent fighter. 99% of his opposition has been horrid, though.

Very fair and good analyst, though what about his fight with Vincente Mosquero? I mean, it's no doubt he's fighting chumps, though perhaps when he fights high caliber opponents, he steps it up a notch?

[miron_lang]

I'm posting this in every ****ing thread about Valero. This is the third today. It sums up everything I have to say on the guy :


9-4-2. (Micheal Lozado)
21-8-1. (Genaro Trazancos)
17-8-6. (Hero Bando)
1-6 <----What? (Jose Hernandez)
0-9 <----WHAT?? (Edgar Mendoza)
2-8. (Danny Sandoval)

These are 6 records of fighters he beat. Look at those numbers. He knocked out a guy who was 0-9 in the first round. Hmm. Everyone starts out fighting chumps but Valerio is doing it just to gain notoriety. That top record of 29-4-2 is of his last opponent. These men come from all over the world- Colombia, Venezuela, Japan, Panama. Oh wait, want to see the American he fought? :

Emmanuel Ford: 6-27-3. 6 wins. 27 losses. 3 draws. Six wins to 27 losses.

These aren't just fighters from his backyard. He is targeting chumps. Please, please tell me someone else sees that it is VERY premature to say Valero has the best bet to beat Manny. Pacquiao has been fighting Marco Antonio Barreras and Erik Morales'- not guys with 9 losses and not a SINGLE win. That's more than a chump fighter- that's a ****ing joke fight. Can someone else back me in saying people are getting excited about this guy WAY to soon? He's a product of good handlers- a fighter built by hype. Take him for what he is.

A guy with power and yet not real experience against even a 'B' level fighter. ****....maybe not even against a 'C' level fighter. FAR too soon to even speak of him fighting Pac-man. Let's see him in the ring with someone who has a decent record first, alright? ****.

I'd also like to point out, just for example, Valero's American fight against Emmanuel Ford- Ford has been knocked out 6 times in the 1st round. Edwin was not alone. Think they knew?
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The only thing I amend is that, it was brought to my attention, many believe Valero has merit based on the Vincente fight.....so maybe he's fought one decent fighter. 99% of his opposition has been horrid, though.

So you're saying that he practically beat trcyle drivers?

[Njord777]

Very fair and good analyst, though what about his fight with Vincente Mosquero? I mean, it's no doubt he's fighting chumps, though perhaps when he fights high caliber opponents, he steps it up a notch?

I suppose. I did throw in the end bit on Vincente, but I'm still not sold.