Edwin Valero: "Pacquiao is a Cab Driver"

[PrtyBoyDlicious]

lol the second someone makes a negative remark about manny pacquiao they are regarded as haters by all the pac **** suckers

**** suckers? Whoa!

[deuce_drop]

obviously valero has a punchers chance and that is about it. pacquiao has him beat on all aspects of the fight game, valero is far from being ready as far as skill to fight manny, but with his power he can make up for his lack of skill inside the ring.

i think that valero gets the piss beat out of him by manny.....................

[Chups]

PACMAN NOT CHASING BARRERA!

By Lito delos Reyes
PhilBoxing.com
04 Jan 2007

GENERAL Santos City -- Filipino boxing superstar Manny "PacMan"
Pacquiao said yesterday that he is not chasing WBC super featherweight champion Marco Antonio Barrera, who is now set to fight against Juan Manuel Marquez on March 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

"No way! Hindi ako naghahabol kay Barrera kasi tinalo ko na siya noon," said Pacquiao.

Golden Boy promotions CEO Richard Schaefer had finalized already the Barrera-Marquez fight after the deadline on Pacquiao to make his decision on whether to fight Barrera or not.

Schaefer had earlier made an offer to Pacquiao for a rematch with Barrera on a fifty-fifty split.

"I'm not ready for March. Sa April pa ako puede. Walang problema sa akin kung hindi kami maglaban ni Barrera. Kung sila Barrera at Marquez ang maglalaban ay wala naman silang malalaking premyo," Pacquiao said.

With the recent development, the Filipino southpaw said that he will now most likely next fight on April 28 in Macau against a still unnamed opponent.

"Puede pa naman akong lumaban. May lima kaming pinipilian sa ngayon," said Pacquiao, who was voted as The Ring's 2006 Fighter of the Year.

Since The Ring originated the award in 1928, only six fighters below the lightweight division—Henry Armstrong (1937), Willie Pep (’45), Carlos Zarate (’77), Salvador Sanchez (’81), Michael Carbajal (’93), Paulie Ayala (’99)—have been previously selected for the magazine’s top honor. Pacquiao is number seven.

"Masang-masaya ako sa dahil ako ang pinili nila. Nagpapasalamat ako ng marami sa lahat ng bomoto sa akin," said Pacquiao, who said he will start training in February here.

Meanwhile, Canadian boxing agent Michael Konz, who has been sleeping at the mansion of Pacquiao since last month said that one of the probable opponents could be sensational knockout artist Venezuelan southpaw Edwin Valero.

"I know already earlier that the Pacquiao-Barrera fight will not pushed through. I don't care," bragged Koncz, who plans to go home next week to the United States.

Valero has a ring record of 21-0 with 21 KOs with his first 18 bouts finished in the opening round. The hard-hitting southpaw had captured the WBA throne by impressively halting Vicente Mosquera in ten furious see-saw rounds in Panama last August, and was impressive in another first-round demolition over Mexican Michael Lozada in Tokyo yesterday.

[Guest]

I'll repost my thoughts on Valero from the other thread on him :

29-4-2. (Micheal Lozado)
21-8-1. (Genaro Trazancos)
17-8-6. (Hero Bando)
1-6 <----What? (Jose Hernandez)
0-9 <----WHAT?? (Edgar Mendoza)
2-8. (Danny Sandoval)

These are 6 records of fighters he beat. Look at those numbers. He knocked out a guy who was 0-9 in the first round. Hmm. Everyone starts out fighting chumps but Valerio is doing it just to gain notoriety. That top record of 29-4-2 is of his last opponent. These men come from all over the world- Colombia, Venezuela, Japan, Panama. Oh wait, want to see the American he fought? :

Emmanuel Ford: 6-27-3. 6 wins. 27 losses. 3 draws. Six wins to 27 losses.

These aren't just fighters from his backyard. He is targeting chumps. Please, please tell me someone else sees that it is VERY premature to say Valero has the best bet to beat Manny. Pacquiao has been fighting Marco Antonio Barreras and Erik Morales'- not guys with 9 losses and not a SINGLE win. That's more than a chump fighter- that's a ****ing joke fight. Can someone else back me in saying people are getting excited about this guy WAY to soon? He's a product of good handlers- a fighter built by hype. Take him for what he is.

A guy with power and yet not real experience against even a 'B' level fighter. ****....maybe not even against a 'C' level fighter. FAR too soon to even speak of him fighting Pac-man. Let's see him in the ring with someone who has a decent record first, alright? ****.

I'd also like to point out, just for example, Valero's American fight against Emmanuel Ford- Ford has been knocked out 6 times in the 1st round. Edwin was not alone. Think they knew?

I don't remember Pacquiao fighting too many Americans either, so what's your point? If Valero is trash and hype, why not take advantage of that by flattening the guy and adding even more to Manny's legacy? It would look great on Pac's record if he destroyed a guy with 20 first rounds KO's in 21 fights. And Valero beat a tough, respected champion to win his title in the champion's backyard. The Mosquera win was a quality victory and showed that Valero is at least a top 5 fighter at 130. He also showed he is an exciting fighter with heart like Manny. This would be a great fight and only the Pac nuthuggers feel the need to disrespect Valero because they fear this man can KTFO their hero...

[Njord777]

I don't remember Pacquiao fighting too many Americans either, so what's your point? If Valero is trash and hype, why not take advantage of that by flattening the guy and adding even more to Manny's legacy? It would look great on Pac's record if he destroyed a guy with 20 first rounds KO's in 21 fights. And Valero beat a tough, respected champion to win his title in the champion's backyard. The Mosquera win was a quality victory and showed that Valero is at least a top 5 fighter at 130. He also showed he is an exciting fighter with heart like Manny. This would be a great fight and only the Pac nuthuggers feel the need to disrespect Valero because they fear this man can KTFO their hero...

I'm not a nuthugger of Pacquiao at all...so you're wrong. I find Pac to be a very strong, fast fighter who happens to be able to whoop ass based off a one dimensional game plan. He's improving but that doesn't mean he's unstoppable...so try again. I'm unbiased.

I refuse to be a dollar sign for the greedier side of the boxing industry. The side that shelters fighters, pushes meaningless ppv's, and sees every boxing fan as a dumb commodity to shovel cash their way. I won't buy it. I won't buy that a guy who knocks out chumps automatically deserves a multi-million dollar pay day or my money when they try and put this on Pay Per View- as they will. I guess you get into the top 5 at 130 by beating one solid fighter (which, by the by, is Valero's only fight to go the distance- 10th round, correct?) but I won't eat it up.

My point in showing the nationalities of the fighters he has faced is that they are shopping around for opponents in some sense. Valero hasn't sat in his backyard, as many young fighters do, and fought home-town amateurs. His handlers have looked around for green, untalented chumps, and thrown them in for Edwin to look spectacular. The one solid fight he has had, may have shown some potential, but is not enough to catapult you to the top of the game to fight one of the pound for pound boxers.

I'm not being used by some handler somewhere who expects me to be too dumb to look at the numbers of the opponents Valero has faced and decide for myself if he's ready. He is not. He needs to prove himself before I waste money on him (again Pac will only be fighting on PPV..so we know where this fight is going).

Mike Tyson still has power. He knocked down Corey Sanders in the ill fated, "Tyson World Tour". Do we throw him back in with guys like Klitschko? Power is only as good as the skills and offensive repertoire to use it- so don't play the big hitter card for Valero.

I'm saying- not yet- to Valero. Not never, or **** this guy, just not yet. He has fought nobodies (minus the one fight against Vicente). He needs to build a resume before I see him as a threat to anyone.I respect his power but not his ability to hang with the top dogs.

[Del Coqui]

Valero is a very tough fighter and an extra base hitter no question about that, but lets get real, he doesnt have the style to beat Pacquiao, as a matter of fact, he's tailor made for Pacquiao imo. The only one in those weight classes I see beating Pacquiao is Casamayor, or anyone else who can move side to side and stay away from Manny's left hand.

[adamk1304]

I'll repost my thoughts on Valero from the other thread on him :

29-4-2. (Micheal Lozado)
21-8-1. (Genaro Trazancos)
17-8-6. (Hero Bando)
1-6 <----What? (Jose Hernandez)
0-9 <----WHAT?? (Edgar Mendoza)
2-8. (Danny Sandoval)

These are 6 records of fighters he beat. Look at those numbers. He knocked out a guy who was 0-9 in the first round. Hmm. Everyone starts out fighting chumps but Valerio is doing it just to gain notoriety. That top record of 29-4-2 is of his last opponent. These men come from all over the world- Colombia, Venezuela, Japan, Panama. Oh wait, want to see the American he fought? :

Emmanuel Ford: 6-27-3. 6 wins. 27 losses. 3 draws. Six wins to 27 losses.

These aren't just fighters from his backyard. He is targeting chumps. Please, please tell me someone else sees that it is VERY premature to say Valero has the best bet to beat Manny. Pacquiao has been fighting Marco Antonio Barreras and Erik Morales'- not guys with 9 losses and not a SINGLE win. That's more than a chump fighter- that's a ****ing joke fight. Can someone else back me in saying people are getting excited about this guy WAY to soon? He's a product of good handlers- a fighter built by hype. Take him for what he is.

A guy with power and yet not real experience against even a 'B' level fighter. ****....maybe not even against a 'C' level fighter. FAR too soon to even speak of him fighting Pac-man. Let's see him in the ring with someone who has a decent record first, alright? ****.

I'd also like to point out, just for example, Valero's American fight against Emmanuel Ford- Ford has been knocked out 6 times in the 1st round. Edwin was not alone. Think they knew?

You seem to have forgotten about his impressive win over mosquera, who is hardly a bum.

[cupcrazy01]

Pac would be wise to target Valero now, while he is still very inexperienced (he only has 31 TOTAL rounds in the ring). If Pac fights smart he will see the openings as Valero wings toward him and if Mosquera can rock Valero, Pac can separate him from his senses real quick. I see a short, explosive fight that ends with Pac TKO in 4.

[Pinoy_Texan]

the Cab driver is going to kick the ass of the Tricycle driver.

common sense

I don't know man. Have you seen trycicle drivers drive. They are crazy. You can never count out a crazy man.

[Guest]

I'm not a nuthugger of Pacquiao at all...so you're wrong. I find Pac to be a very strong, fast fighter who happens to be able to whoop ass based off a one dimensional game plan. He's improving but that doesn't mean he's unstoppable...so try again. I'm unbiased.

I refuse to be a dollar sign for the greedier side of the boxing industry. The side that shelters fighters, pushes meaningless ppv's, and sees every boxing fan as a dumb commodity to shovel cash their way. I won't buy it. I won't buy that a guy who knocks out chumps automatically deserves a multi-million dollar pay day or my money when they try and put this on Pay Per View- as they will. I guess you get into the top 5 at 130 by beating one solid fighter (which, by the by, is Valero's only fight to go the distance- 10th round, correct?) but I won't eat it up.

My point in showing the nationalities of the fighters he has faced is that they are shopping around for opponents in some sense. Valero hasn't sat in his backyard, as many young fighters do, and fought home-town amateurs. His handlers have looked around for green, untalented chumps, and thrown them in for Edwin to look spectacular. The one solid fight he has had, may have shown some potential, but is not enough to catapult you to the top of the game to fight one of the pound for pound boxers.

I'm not being used by some handler somewhere who expects me to be too dumb to look at the numbers of the opponents Valero has faced and decide for myself if he's ready. He is not. He needs to prove himself before I waste money on him (again Pac will only be fighting on PPV..so we know where this fight is going).

Mike Tyson still has power. He knocked down Corey Sanders in the ill fated, "Tyson World Tour". Do we throw him back in with guys like Klitschko? Power is only as good as the skills and offensive repertoire to use it- so don't play the big hitter card for Valero.

I'm saying- not yet- to Valero. Not never, or **** this guy, just not yet. He has fought nobodies (minus the one fight against Vicente). He needs to build a resume before I see him as a threat to anyone.I respect his power but not his ability to hang with the top dogs.

What great fighter did Pacquiao beat to earn the right to face Barrera? At that point in his career, Pacquiao had beaten some solid fighters and champions but Pacquiao had not only faced bums but also LOST TO THEM. I don't remember Pacquiao going on 1st round KO spree in his career that even rivals Valero's. Valero is destroying everyone in his path. Before the Mosquera fight, I thought Valero was all hype too. But by knocking his ass out in his backyard and showing heart to get up from a knockdown, I think Valero deserves a shot...

Pacquiao is a one dimensional fighter who whips ass, as you say. Well, so is Valero. What's the problem with putting them together?