** Boricuas owning 147 division....soon**

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  • borikua
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    #11
    Originally posted by Animal Squabbs
    no way is Cotto gonna be better than Tito. Tito beat three Gold Metalist and not just any gold metalists, Whitaker, De La Hoya (billed as fight of the century), and Reid. Also had a superfight with Vargas, moved up and DESTROYED the second best middleweight, then finally lost to not only one of the best middleweights of all time, but the future light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins. Plus, Tito was killing people with those power shots. Cotto is going to have to beat Mosley, Mayweather, Cory Spinks, WInky Wright and Edison Miranda, then fight Jermain Taylor to equal what Tito did.

    Plus he became Welterweight champion at 20(by KO the champ in 2 rounds)....And I think that he has the most title defenses in welterweight history...15.

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      #12
      Originally posted by Orishaman
      Collazo won by TKO in the 6th against Atadzhanov,a tough Uzbec....a la Abdulaev...BTW he never fought Cotto....

      Quitana will fight again until late 2007, anyway he needed time to get his body in healing mode before goig back to the gym...Jose is gone to 154 anyway.....Kermit will win against SSM....that;s my prdiction on that...and Cotto will be lined up for Margo in June...and ready for PBF early 2008...so I don;t understand your logic or point...
      See, nothing in there says we'er gonna own 147. While Cotto is fighting Margarito, whoever shows his face will have to deal with Andre Berto, Paul Williams, and Floyd/Hatton/Castillo might even come to the divsion. Where we could of manuvers to key spots in favor of us, now we will get the **** of the deal.

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      • borikua
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        #13
        Originally posted by Hopkins#1
        Yeah i dont think Cintron has much chance against Mosley. But im all for the Puerto Rican fighters. Cottos gonna go down as possibly the best ever.


        Trinidad

        longest reigning welterweight champion in boxing history

        second in consecutive welterweight title defenses with 15,only behind henry armstrong who has 18 defenses. BUT Armstrong loss a fight in another division during his welterweight reign while tito remained undefeated and won a fight at 154

        True champion at 147

        True champion at 154

        Title at 160

        undefeated in his first 40 fights

        undefeated in 20 consectutive championship fights

        Undefeated at welterweight

        Undefeated at superwelterweight

        top 5 all time welterweight great

        top 3 all time great superwelterweight,most putting him 2nd behind tommy hearns

        Tito started at 140 and his first loss was to an all time top 10 middleweight great,

        only 1 loss in his prime

        beat 3 gold medal winners

        the first man to beat de la hoya,carr,campas,reid,vargas,

        first man to clearly beat pernell whitiker

        42 Wins 2 losses 35 kos

        ring magaizine has him ranked # 30 in its biggest punchers of all time

        ring magizine has him ranked #51 of the best of the last 80 years
        (hopkins #50 de la hoya #75)

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        • Orishaman
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          #14
          Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
          See, nothing in there says we'er gonna own 147. While Cotto is fighting Margarito, whoever shows his face will have to deal with Andre Berto, Paul Williams, and Floyd/Hatton/Castillo might even come to the divsion. Where we could of manuvers to key spots in favor of us, now we will get the **** of the deal.
          Dude...the fact that you mentioned Berto, let me know that you don;t know what time it is holmes....

          Berto- good prospect, nothing more than that at this point, he get hit square on the face to many times for my taste...get him with a top rank WW and he will be eaten alive...I bet you were one of the ones that jump on Julios bandwagon...****....

          Paul Williams: what about him......he is yet to fight a top fighter at 147....please he fight with his chin in the air and the way he likes to mix it up it won;t be long unitl someone fights that chin and then we will see what is he made off...

          PBF....the hit and run man..hell he has not stayed to fight at one weight more than 3 times since he jump to JRWW...Cotto could give him everything could handle and maybe more...ODLH that fight is a farse....

          Castillo- we will see how he takes a 147 punch, hell Arguello , twice the fighter that Castillo is pupp out at 140 when he hit the Pryor wall...

          Hatton-he knew better than try it again at 147 and did the smart thing getting his ass back to 140....and Urango is not a push over...

          Please dude don't talk just for talking....I been on this game for along time....

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          • IwatchBoxing
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            #15
            Bro, you can put Williams and Berto down, but they are serious. Williams would have token care of Margarito, **** Collazo and Quintana could of gotten rid of Margarito, but now that job runs to Cotto. Collazo and Quintana suffered major set backs, their in la la land and who knows if they'll be 100 percent or have the same backing behind them they did before. Right now we got Cintron who has come to be the Puerto Rican joke behind Mexican bragging rights, and Miguel. Berto is a serious threat hes a major prospect for a reason dont under estimate him..

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            • Orishaman
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              #16
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              Bro, you can put Williams and Berto down, but they are serious. Williams would have token care of Margarito, **** Collazo and Quintana could of gotten rid of Margarito, but now that job runs to Cotto. Collazo and Quintana suffered major set backs, their in la la land and who knows if they'll be 100 percent or have the same backing behind them they did before. Right now we got Cintron who has come to be the Puerto Rican joke behind Mexican bragging rights, and Miguel. Berto is a serious threat hes a major prospect for a reason dont under estimate him..
              Berto can punch no doubt, but there's far more than punching on boxing and he does not have devastating power to the level of a Cotto say...Berto will end up at 154 in another year nayway, to big...

              Williams, please read the post previous to this one...Willimas is untested bro...and if you said otherwise you are fooling yourself...

              Collazo ..has not shoot himslef on any foot hell he won his last fight....

              BTW ...for those crowning Cotto as the best PR ever..he has ways to go and don;t forget that PR put guys like Carlos Ortiz, Wilfred, Vita de Jesus, Samule Serrano, El Chapo, etc...and
              Tito... so he has a good start but plenty to travel yet
              Last edited by Orishaman; 12-22-2006, 11:39 PM.

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              • IwatchBoxing
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                #17
                Originally posted by Orishaman
                Berto can punch no doubt, but there's far more than punching on boxing and he does not have devastating power to the level of a Cotto say...Berto will end up at 154 in another year nayway, to big...

                Williams, please read the post previous to this one...Willimas is untested bro...and if you said otherwise you are fooling yourself...

                Collazo ..has not shoot himslef on any foot hell he won his last fight....
                Berto would beat Quintana, Kermit and probaly Collazo...there goes the naborhood. Williams who knows, but I know he would of beaten Margarito. If you can think of a bad match up for us it will be made, because we get matched to lose, not to win, you seem to think that Puerto Ricans have been making noise in boxing, or like Collazo-Quintana havent dropped down the rankings like a rock in the water. LOL
                Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 12-22-2006, 11:49 PM.

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                • Orishaman
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                  Berto would beat Quintana, Kermit and probaly Collazo...there goes the naborhood. Williams who knows, but I know he would of beaten Margarito. If you can think of a bad match up for us it will be made, because we get matched to lose, not to win, you seem to think that Puerto Ricans have been making noise in boxing, or like Collazo-Quintana havent dropped down the rankings like a rock in the water. LOL
                  On what you base you flawed predictions...Berto is a good upcoming prospect...that it...dude I know you know more boxing than jsut getting cought up on the one fight.....with Berto......I tell you what Berto is no Miranda...

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                  • ferocity
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                    #19
                    One division. Mexicans we've taken hostage 3 somtimes 4 divisions at a time. Margarito is going to have to go through a lot of Puerto Rican in the coming year. And iwatchboxing is right in a way. Instead of you guys owning each title they pit you guys against each other.

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                    • IwatchBoxing
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Orishaman
                      On what you base you flawed predictions...Berto is a good upcoming prospect...that it...dude I know you know more boxing than jsut getting cought up on the one fight.....with Berto......I tell you what Berto is no Miranda...
                      You don't have to be Miranda to beat these guys.

                      Collazo - Robbed over a bogus knockdown (he scored a knock down that wasn't counted). Didn't get a thank you, or rematch.

                      Cintron - knocked out by Margarito in 5th round or whenever, cried.

                      Quintana - look at Boricuas avatar

                      Jose Rivera - pushed back a whole year, didn't get a fight he wanted instead hes gonna face a guy I'm sure they'd love to upset him.

                      Daniel Santos - he stood and fought Margarito , gave people a good fight, sent to Germeny where he was robbed never heard of again.

                      Point is these guys aren't asurred a future in boxing...
                      Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 12-23-2006, 12:14 AM.

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