Dirtiest Fighters (of the Past and Present)

[Left2body]

Almost forgot Golotta.

BTW Tyson isn't a dirty fighter, Evanders ear just happend to accidently slip into Tyson's mouth and Tyson thought it was his new Beef Jerky flavored mouth piece.

[Kid Achilles]

Harry Greb. One of the greatest and most talented fighters of all time was also one of the dirtiest.

[jabsRstiff]

Holyfield was a rough, rough man.....not dirty.
Most of the people who calim he was dirty are the Tyson-lovers, looking for yet another reason (excuse) for the so-called "baddest man on the planet" getting manhandled.

[Guest]

Anyone LIKE fouling? The way Maussa sees any area of the body as a viable target area cracks me up.

And Danny Williams did a few naughty things against Audley (such as getting in a sly right hook when Harrison had slipped on the canvas) but... it's AUDLEY, innit? Give him a sly dig and use the head a bit, who cares?

[Run]

No, Evander was just really good at headbutting, Maussa just isn't as good. This doesn't make Evander a cleaner fighter just a better headbutter. Evander threw lethal headbutts in so many of his fights. Tyson I&II, Rahman, Ruiz.

I still don't think it's as malicious as you guys are making it out to be. Holy has always led with his head on the inside to create distance from his opponent, there's no rule against that. Sometimes when he's head foward and throwing punches to the body.....someone tries to duck and at the same time he raises up. I've seen that happen a thousand times....only because of Evander's fighting style. Sure he headbutts on this inside like any other fighter at times....but I never thought he was a dirty fighter.

Bernard was/is pretty dirty too. All you have to do is look at the Echol's fights to see Bernard spin and hit behind the head come in with his head and all sorts of rough house tactics.

Yeah the first fight was dirty and the second was bad blood. If someone suplexes you and you dislocate your shoulder, I'd imagine that would leave a bad taste in your mouth. Dirty or not Echols got his ass handed to him in the second fight.

Hatton also, just look at the Tzu fight, thats all the evidence you need.

Yeah, but like I stated....it's only 1 fight. I don't see how someone can build a reputation based on 1 fight alone. For the most part Hatton has been a CLEAN fighter that i've seen throughout his career. At times the low blows might slip in....but that's because he throws so many punches to the body.

Those kinds of things happen and sometimes I think they're labeled as malicious when they really weren't intended to be.



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[Left2body]

I still don't think it's as malicious as you guys are making it out to be. Holy has always led with his head on the inside to create distance from his opponent, there's no rule against that. Sometimes when he's head foward and throwing punches to the body.....someone tries to duck and at the same time he raises up. I've seen that happen a thousand times....only because of Evander's fighting style. Sure he headbutts on this inside like any other fighter at times....but I never thought he was a dirty fighter.

Evander is one of my favorite fighters, his fights showed what a tremendous heart and drive to win Evander has, but with that said I still think he was dirty, due to the fact that it happend too many times.

Yeah the first fight was dirty and the second was bad blood. If someone suplexes you and you dislocate your shoulder, I'd imagine that would leave a bad taste in your mouth. Dirty or not Echols got his ass handed to him in the second fight.

Yeah, that was brutal, I was amazed at how crazy that fight was and B-Hop did hand it to Echols.

Yeah, but like I stated....it's only 1 fight. I don't see how someone can build a reputation based on 1 fight alone. For the most part Hatton has been a CLEAN fighter that i've seen throughout his career. At times the low blows might slip in....but that's because he throws so many punches to the body.

Those kinds of things happen and sometimes I think they're labeled as malicious when they really weren't intended to be.

You know what I'll given in here. I'll retract my Hatton is dirty because like you stated it is mostly based on 1 fight....although he does repeatedly hold and hits in most of his fights its not a tenth as bad or as flagrant as it was in the Tzu fight as it is in other. But that Tzu fight was a dirty fight but Hatton is not a dirty fighter.

[Kid Achilles]

As the great Gene Tunney once said about the even greater Dempsey.

"Sure Dempsey hit me low a few times in our fights, but he also didn't complain when I hit him low."

This is fighting, as long as it's not super blatant you can't crucify someone for the occasionaly low blow or headbutt.

What is unacceptable however is throwing a low blow and then following it up with an illegal rabbit punch as Judah did to Mayweather.

[Guest]

You know what I'll given in here. I'll retract my Hatton is dirty because like you stated it is mostly based on 1 fight....although he does repeatedly hold and hits in most of his fights its not a tenth as bad or as flagrant as it was in the Tzu fight as it is in other. But that Tzu fight was a dirty fight but Hatton is not a dirty fighter.

That's good to see. I did think the "one fight says all" example was harsh. Though I gave Hatton's name myself and DO think that - if maybe not "dirty" - there's a transgression of the rules in his fights (hitting and holding, usually).

The Costa Zoo fight was strange, like the occasion and nerves got to him - I've never seen him rabbit anyone before or since.

[Hydro]

Oh and what's all this Holyfield nonsense?

He has a big ass head leave it at that. I never saw him trying to launch himself like a missile head first toward an opponent like Maussa.

He fights on the inside, and when he gets in that mode he tends to lean in with his head....I really do not think it's intentional most of the time. Rahman has a glass face because all the headbutting Ruiz took never resulted in him looking like th elephant man.

Holyfield is dirty.

Holyfield is more skilled with his headbutting, just like Hopkins is, so they don't make it look plainly obvious like Miranda, Golota, or Maussa when they headbutt.

Against Toney and Byrd, Holyfield wasn't quite as sneaky with his headbutts.

Holyfield also blatantly (and I meant blatant as hell) elbowed Ruiz in the face.

Ruiz is another dirty fighter. Holding and hitting, rabbit punching (a very dangerous foul), then he cries when someone does it back and milks the hell out of borderline low shots.

[Run]

Evander is one of my favorite fighters, his fights showed what a tremendous heart and drive to win Evander has, but with that said I still think he was dirty, due to the fact that it happend too many times.

Like I've stated his head is just way too big. At cruiserweight he looked like a lolly pop and that's just a sign of disaster. Yes he as well is one of my favorite all time fighters that's just a fact.

Yeah, that was brutal, I was amazed at how crazy that fight was and B-Hop did hand it to Echols.

Echols is a better fighter than most people acknowledge. He's definitely washed up now, and I think he's taken too much damage in the ring. At one point in time he was a one punch knockout artist (as I'm sure you know) and was a sparring partner of Winky's.

You know what I'll given in here. I'll retract my Hatton is dirty because like you stated it is mostly based on 1 fight....although he does repeatedly hold and hits in most of his fights its not a tenth as bad or as flagrant as it was in the Tzu fight as it is in other. But that Tzu fight was a dirty fight but Hatton is not a dirty fighter.

He's quickly becoming the Ruiz of the welterweights yes. If that style keeps up, and the fights become increasingly boring.....I think he could be floating into the "dirty" class considering that nonsense gets old. It's beyond no stretch of anyone's imagination that hugging someone like a bear might be considered a flagrant violation of the rules = outright dirty tactics.

Because as it stands holding behind the head is a dirty maneuver that Ali used to use.......and technically counts the same as a headbutt. The ref warns, and then another violation results in a point deduction.

I think the actual physical severity of the offense might dictate people's perceptions as to a fighter being dirty....as in outright dirty like Hopkins.

Hopkins like I said is the dirtiest fighter of all time because he laughed after he did flagrant things in the ring. Whatever he's always been cooler than Tyson, considering he never ate anyone's ear.



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