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  • iron mike tyson
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    #1

    p4p

    earlier i was readin some ppls interpretation off the meaning off p4p (not gonna name no names) but they was basicly saying your number one because of your past succeses and skill , with that said it got me thinking about the past 2 p4p#1 tennants , roy jones jr and bernard hopkins , jones was #1 forever and on paper hes accompishments looked impressive (wins,titles,kos) maybe hes level of compitition wasnt stella but looked impressive. bernard hopkins was another person whos record on paper has got a few bigger names than jones jr (dlh,tito and others) but hes best victorys came against men naturally lighter when himself was a carear middlewieght (apart from 2 fights at lh)
    both off these guys eventually lost and both got dropped like bad habbits , i mean if p4p is on skill and past accomplishments shouldnt jones jr still be there or bernard hopkins.
    without name calling , raciallly discriminating me or name calling nebody else that participates in this thread lets have a adult conversation on the term p4p
  • Shanus
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    #2
    To be honest I have no idea what other people define as "pound for pound", I generalise it on who is the best/better fighter/s if weight wasn't an issue, but I back it up on who they've proved it against/what they've shown.

    So in a nutshell, it's a mixture of both fighting ability and competition.

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    • iron mike tyson
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      #3
      Originally posted by Shanus
      To be honest I have no idea what other people define as "pound for pound", I generalise it on who is the best/better fighter/s if weight wasn't an issue, but I back it up on who they've proved it against/what they've shown.

      So in a nutshell, it's a mixture of both fighting ability and competition.
      so who do u rate #1?

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      • Run
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        #4
        Originally posted by Shanus
        To be honest I have no idea what other people define as "pound for pound", I generalise it on who is the best/better fighter/s if weight wasn't an issue, but I back it up on who they've proved it against/what they've shown.

        So in a nutshell, it's a mixture of both fighting ability and competition.
        The pound for pound system was designed for Sugar Ray Robinson.

        It's a measure of how well a fighter under 200 pounds would fare against any other fighter and especially heavyweights. However, heavyweights can't be included in the measurement because they're the supreme weight.

        I think it's not really who's the "most accomplished" or who is exactly a "better" fighter in the sense of the word....it's more like who is really the most dangerous man in a boxing match regardless of weight and would have a chance to beat anybody.

        Somewhere along the line.....accomplishment and fame became criteria in ranking someone on a "P4P" Scale.



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