Taylor/Chavez 1990

**AJ53** · 12-17-2006, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by ianwigley

Folks

I know it's an age old debate, but I'm new to this forum, and I really don't fancy trawling through the past pages to see if anyone covered this before.

So, what's the deal? Did Richard Steele stop it unnecessarily? Was Taylor dying on his feet? Was Chavez dying on his feet? Did Taylor look out of it?

I had Taylor well ahead until 12, but Chavez hammered him for 2 and a bit minutes of the last round, and possibly ruined him.

Hung jury...give me your thoughts people

Ian

i suggest you watch the fight again look at meldricks face and look at the punches that where bouncing off his head.
steele stopping the fight early is bull**** he gave him 2 chances to answer him and he didn't.
no matter how long is left in the fight he has to answer the ref after a kd.

if anybody robbed taylor of the fight it was lou duva with his **** advice and childish jumping up and down on the ring apron.

watch hbo legendary nights tale of chavez taylor that should answer alot of your questions.

**joeytrimble** · 12-17-2006, 09:39 AM

i agree totally with the guy

duva ruined it if anybody did ...richard steele was just doin his job

**DarkSpyder** · 12-17-2006, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by AJ53

i suggest you watch the fight again look at meldricks face and look at the punches that where bouncing off his head.
steele stopping the fight early is bull**** he gave him 2 chances to answer him and he didn't.
no matter how long is left in the fight he has to answer the ref after a kd.

if anybody robbed taylor of the fight it was lou duva with his **** advice and childish jumping up and down on the ring apron.

watch hbo legendary nights tale of chavez taylor that should answer alot of your questions.

Exactly right. Steele was doing exactly what a ref should do, his primary entrustment - protecting the fighters. Any deviation from that, regardless of the time on the clock, would be an abuse of his position.

Steele should not be ostracised for undertaking his responsibilities.

**ianwigley** · 12-17-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by AJ53

i suggest you watch the fight again look at meldricks face and look at the punches that where bouncing off his head.
steele stopping the fight early is bull**** he gave him 2 chances to answer him and he didn't.
no matter how long is left in the fight he has to answer the ref after a kd.

if anybody robbed taylor of the fight it was lou duva with his **** advice and childish jumping up and down on the ring apron.

watch hbo legendary nights tale of chavez taylor that should answer alot of your questions.

Saw HBO legendary nights twice. I'm with you on all the above, Meldrick's face was a mess...but to stand up and fight for five more seconds...hell, history would have been changed...

Ian

**joeytrimble** · 12-17-2006, 09:56 AM

not really seeings how taylor would have been ruined anyways ... chaves woulda just picked up his belts agian and kept going ...

**K-DOGG** · 12-17-2006, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by ianwigley

Folks

I know it's an age old debate, but I'm new to this forum, and I really don't fancy trawling through the past pages to see if anyone covered this before.

So, what's the deal? Did Richard Steele stop it unnecessarily? Was Taylor dying on his feet? Was Chavez dying on his feet? Did Taylor look out of it?

I had Taylor well ahead until 12, but Chavez hammered him for 2 and a bit minutes of the last round, and possibly ruined him.

Hung jury...give me your thoughts people

Ian

It was an not necessesary to stop the fight; but given the circumstances....Taylor's lack of response to Steele....it, unfortunately, is understandable.

Duva was climbing onto the apron during the count, Taylor, thinking he was aobut to stop the fight, focussed on Lou, ignoring Steele during a critical moment. Broke my heart for him to tell you the truth.

**AJ53** · 12-17-2006, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by K-DOGG

It was an not necessesary to stop the fight; but given the circumstances....Taylor's lack of response to Steele....it, unfortunately, is understandable.

Duva was climbing onto the apron during the count, Taylor, thinking he was aobut to stop the fight, focussed on Lou, ignoring Steele during a critical moment. Broke my heart for him to tell you the truth.

when he was interviewed for legendary nights duva said his advice going into the last round was dance, dance, dance move, move, move make em believe your mohammad ali in there, have fun in there but dont fight.

then cut to the video of the fight-

lou's advice is;- the fights hanging on this round here mel.

all i could think of when i seen it was WHAT A LYING TWAT.
come on lou be a ****ing man and admit that you ****ed up!!
i think he owes taylor that!!

**ianwigley** · 12-17-2006, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by AJ53

when he was interviewed for legendary nights duva said his advice going into the last round was dance, dance, dance move, move, move make em believe your mohammad ali in there, have fun in there but dont fight.

then cut to the video of the fight-

lou's advice is;- the fights hanging on this round here mel.

all i could think of when i seen it was WHAT A LYING TWAT.
come on lou be a ****ing man and admit that you ****ed up!!
i think he owes taylor that!!

Maximum respect, my friend

You've read the fight good and proper...

**kayjay** · 12-17-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by AJ53

i suggest you watch the fight again look at meldricks face and look at the punches that where bouncing off his head.
steele stopping the fight early is bull**** he gave him 2 chances to answer him and he didn't.
no matter how long is left in the fight he has to answer the ref after a kd.

if anybody robbed taylor of the fight it was lou duva with his **** advice and childish jumping up and down on the ring apron.

watch hbo legendary nights tale of chavez taylor that should answer alot of your questions.

Exactly. The ref has no authority to allow the time left in the fight to alter his decision regarding a KO/TKO.

Taylor/Chavez 1990