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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    #11
    Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
    Extactly, they sold Abraham as he dominated Miranda. Than turned over to Miranda as he was ****. If Abraham got a stoppage like that, it'd be ko of the year, but with miranda its controversail also if you watch the last interview the translator wouldn't even let Miranda talked. I actually knew something was up when, (dont be surpised, yes I'ma have to go there again, sorry vatos) the annoucer for Telefutura (a mexican network) showed up and called it a "main attraction" not main event...
    I dont know about that. The word around town is tonight was a showcase for Miranda to set up a future date with Jermain Taylor. And that's why they were pumping him fighting Taylor so hard during the show and during the post-fight interview.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      Exactly. The end result would have been the same, but it was the end of the first round.

      I have to watch the replay, but it seemed like he got up as the ref counted ten.
      If the ref reaches the count of ten and you are not on your feet then you lose. Gibbs started to get up after the ref said ten. End of the first round or not, Gibbs didn't get up in time.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        I dont know about that. The word around town is tonight was a showcase for Miranda to set up a future date with Jermain Taylor. And that's why they were pumping him fighting Taylor so hard during the show and during the post-fight interview.
        Against Willie Gibbs, a unknown prospect, that nobody knew but the HBO crew were in tears over losing saying he threw a lazy jab. I'm telling you, I watch boxing, I notice these things, same with daniel Jimenez. I said he was gonna face a unusal hard puncher, and he did. The American boy got knocked out, highlight reel style with one punch by another no name guy. 100s of Omar Ninos running around lol
        Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 12-16-2006, 11:24 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by mic573
          If the ref reaches the count of ten and you are not on your feet then you lose. Gibbs started to get up after the ref said ten. End of the first round or not, Gibbs didn't get up in time.
          Actually if his knees and hands are off the canvas before the count of ten, he is up before the count of ten.

          Like I said, I have to watch the replay. If he picked his knees off the canvas prior to the ref calling ten, he was up before ten. The minute his knees are up, the ref has to stop the count.

          As said before, I think Gibbs also got confused by the first round bell and thought for a split second the fight was over, but then realized it wasnt when the ref continued the count.

          Not that it makes a big difference because I expected Miranda to stop him within three rounds.

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            #15
            Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
            Against Willie Gibbs, a unknown prospect, that nobody knew but the HBO crew were in tears over losing saying he threw a lazy jab. I'm telling you, I watch boxing, I notice these things, same with daniel Jimenez. I said he was gonna face a unusal hard puncher, and he did. The American boy got knocked out, highlight reel style with one punch by another no name guy. 100s of Omar Ninos running around lol
            All four guys tonight were unknown. People have no idea who any of the four guys tonight were. And, I personally know that very few boxing fans even stayed in on a Saturday night to watch Miranda/Litzau - both of whom are unknown by most, fight other guys who are even more unknown.

            Litzau could have won. I have no idea why he let Hernandez hit him with the same right hand over and over and over again, until he cracked him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              All four guys tonight were unknown. People have no idea who any of the four guys tonight were. And, I personally know that very few boxing fans even stayed in on a Saturday night to watch Miranda/Litzau - both of whom are unknown by most, fight other guys who are even more unknown.

              Litzau could have won. I have no idea why he let Hernandez hit him with the same right hand over and over and over again, until he cracked him.
              Litzau has been showcased on FNF many times.....i really think they are more known than what you think.......

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                #17
                Originally posted by living_legend
                Litzau has been showcased on FNF many times.....i really think they are more known than what you think.......
                Known by who? Not the average boxing fan. People have no idea who Calzaghe even is in the United States, you think they know Litzau and Miranda?

                What does a FNF showcase mean? It goes some TV exposure, but not much. The ratings ratio is not very high for those shows, because they are on Friday night, when most people are out. Compared to HBO, there is a very big distance in rating numbers in favor of HBO, and even Showtime.

                I talk to average people about fights like Jermain Taylor and Kassim Ouma, and they think I'm from another planet. They never even heard of these guys, and if they did - they only saw them fight one time at most.

                Ask Rick how he and Wladimir Klitschko hung out on streets of Manhattan for two hours, and thousands of people passed them without a single person stopping to speak to Klitschko, ask for an autograph, nothing. They passed by as if he was an unknown, and this was right before the Brock fight.

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                  #18
                  Miranda is only a "fight of the year" condenter for a fight that ****** balls. All this could be traced to an actricle at Maxcrap entitled "the fight" where they single out a Puerto Rican prospect under the Cotto-Quintana card to do a whole page on him wanting to upset him, and it goes threw his whole life, what he ate for breakfest than images the PR guy has over powering him, and only if he could "hang in there". All up in arms for the underdog up until a favored fighter gets in the ring than its **** the underdog.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                    Known by who? Not the average boxing fan. People have no idea who Calzaghe even is in the United States, you think they know Litzau and Miranda?

                    What does a FNF showcase mean? It goes some TV exposure, but not much. The ratings ratio is not very high for those shows, because they are on Friday night, when most people are out. Compared to HBO, there is a very big distance in rating numbers in favor of HBO, and even Showtime.

                    I talk to average people about fights like Jermain Taylor and Kassim Ouma, and they think I'm from another planet. They never even heard of these guys, and if they did - they only saw them fight one time at most.

                    Ask Rick how he and Wladimir Klitschko hung out on streets of Manhattan for two hours, and thousands of people passed them without a single person stopping to speak to Klitschko, ask for an autograph, nothing. They passed by as if he was an unknown, and this was right before the Brock fight.
                    Adverage people don't know who anybody in boxing is. Boxing is starting to look more and more like Wreslting. Prospects, are prospects, doesn't matter what channel, how many viewers or what if hes good hes good or not.
                    Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 12-17-2006, 01:21 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                      Adverage people don't know who anybody in boxing is. Boxing is starting to look more and more like Wreslting. Prospects, are prospects, doesn't matter what channel, how many viewers or what if hes good hes good or not.
                      Yeah, sadly this is too true. I actually go on this site because I can't have a boxing conversation with many people. Even "Boxing Fans" only know the very very top champions.

                      Most people I know still dont know who Hatton, JMM, Calz, Ouma, Margarito. There just learning about PBF. At the PBF vs Zab fight I had to explain to everyone who it was that Zab had lost too. The Gatti fight did more for PBF's marketability than Castillo, Corrales, Zab and Baldomir combined.

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