Abraham is going down.

[Derranged_]

i dont think it was brutal KO because the guy was okay and the ref was counting fast.

its like a flash KO IMO.

It looked like the ref started to quicken the count as he started to get up giving the fighter no chance to make the count. Good example of bad refing.

[pesticid]

haha.

Everyone is acting like Miranda can't stop Abraham just because of what happened in the first fight.

Let me remind you of someone named Roy Jones Jr. He outclassed Tarver in the first fight and then got KTFO in the second.

People who watch boxing, know the first Abraham fight was a fluke.

Why do you think Max said: "Abraham is a quick fight".

Oh, so now we gonna start listening to what Max says?

[-Hyperion-]

I want to see Winky Wright humiliating Miranda, i dont like Miranda's big fat mouth.

[kayjay]

this "robbery" is bull****.

i was suprised as hell that he wasnt DQd. i mean, he had as many fouls in that one fight as golota had in his two fights with bowe.

he had 5 points deducted and people like to say he was "robbed"? thats just ******.

i really dont like miranda. hes an *******, hes a dirty, undeciplined fighter, his trash talking makes me sick, and his claim of being "the people champion" and the "uncrowned champion" is just ******.

Thank you. You can dispute the deductions, but you can't have scored it for Miranda with the deductions because he needed nine rounds, which he did not get. And whow can you be dumb enough to keep fouling at that point? The headbutt was atrocious. I hate to hate but I don't want to keep hearing about this guy unless he actually beats Abraham, which he did not do the first time, or Taylor.

[eazy_mas]

It looked like the ref started to quicken the count as he started to get up giving the fighter no chance to make the count. Good example of bad refing.

the guy was stuted but the ref was counting less than 10 sec if it was normal it would been at 6

[Pantera2000]

[QUOTE=Undefeated;1993457]

I seriously don't rate Miranda's power that much. Sure, he's got over a 90% KO ratio, but so's Matt Skelton. Okay, different level but you take the point of how stats can lie.

Clearly the guy CAN hit, but when he can't stop someone over seven rounds who has a broken jaw then it has to be brought into question. I would mention the fact that Eastman was clear-eyed just SECONDS after being "TKO'd" by Miranda, but Eastman is known for having a chin anyway, so...[/QUOTE]

That stoppage was premature.. ****ing Ref... Miranda didn't even land that many shots.. Probaly 3-9 landed... The 1st being the powerfull one but eastman tried ducking and moving making it look like Miranda was landing. Eastman had Miranda wobbled yo! It was really Eastmans fault though.. I was screaming.. "Take a knee!!! TAKE A ****ING KNEE" lol Then the ref came in..

Wow... Another jackass that says this was a premature stoppage. I hope you never ref a fight. You'd will have a lot of brian dead fighters on your hands.

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[borikua]

Miranda: I want to dedicate this fight to my friend Carlos "El Indio" Quintana...

Max: You want to dedicate this fight to who?

Miranda: Carlos "El Indio" Quintana...

Max: Oh yeah, the guy that lost to Cotto..

LMAO!!!

[borikua]

I like that Pantera knows that the rematch with Abraham has to be on the US, dont go to Germanny again Edison...

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Pantera2000;1993731]

Wow... Another jackass that says this was a premature stoppage. I hope you never ref a fight. You'd will have a lot of brian dead fighters on your hands.

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Wow... a jackass who CAN'T ****ING READ.

WHERE did I say the stoppage was "premature"? Answer: I DIDN'T. If you're not sure or clear about something I'm saying, ASK me and I will CLARIFY. Don't jump to conclusions about what I'm saying then attack me for it when I haven't even said it in the first ****ing place.

The point I WAS making was that Miranda isn't possibly as hard-hitting as he's reputed to be as Eastman was fine seconds AFTER being TKO'd. I am NOT saying the stoppage was premature, I AM saying that it puts doubt on Miranda's power as Eastman recovered quickly. Do you see? However, I then said that this isn't a fair assessment on Miranda as Eastman is known for being able to take a punch - get me?


Incidentally, the magazine Boxing Monthly agreed with you that Miranda should have got the fifth round TKO victory. It's a magazine written by Europeans and published in Europe. So maybe that should shut up your "all Euros think the same" bull****.

[STEELHEAD]

I seriously don't rate Miranda's power that much. Sure, he's got over a 90% KO ratio, but so's Matt Skelton. Okay, different level but you take the point of how stats can lie.

Clearly the guy CAN hit, but when he can't stop someone over seven rounds who has a broken jaw then it has to be brought into question. I would mention the fact that Eastman was clear-eyed just SECONDS after being "TKO'd" by Miranda, but Eastman is known for having a chin anyway, so...

the way i look at it this abraham has one of the biggest heart in boxing. you got to give this guy mad credit. the clips i've seen his mouth is open and his jaw is flopping back and forth just hanging there everytime miranda connected. it made me winch and go WoW, whoa, WoW ouch,whoa.i havent did that in a long time.

so what i'm saying is any other fighter and corner would have stopped the fight.and he was dangerously out on his feet with mad heart holding him up. don't think any other fighter could have knoched him down. miranda definetly has power he just was up against a guy with maniac heart.

doent bother me when my boxer uses dirty tactics to win. but understand peoples complaints about miranda. i felt the same about, i think it was raul marquez in the mosley fight. i still hate the bastard.