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    BOXING faces ULTIMATE Challenge!

    John Whisler: Boxing faces Ultimate challenge

    Web Posted: 12/09/2006 09:47 PM CST


    San Antonio Express-News

    Whisler Call me old-fashioned, old school or just plain old. But I'm having a hard time embracing this whole martial arts/ultimate fighting thing.

    Yet I can understand its soaring popularity.

    It's different. It's fast-paced. It's cutting-edge. It's also confusing to the uninitiated — people like me — but one thing it's not is boring.

    To those who like mixed-martial arts fights, particularly 18-34-year-old white males, the cage is all the rage.

    Me? I'll take an exciting 12-round boxing match over one of these one- or two-round, blink-and-it's over MMA fights any day.

    But my group, the group that loves boxing, is shrinking.

    We had better wake up.

    I don't know if this genre of combat sport, led by the wildly successful Ultimate Fighting Championship, is going to last. To be honest, it has the look and feel of a fad, kind of like Toughman. Time will tell, but it's hard to argue with the cold, hard facts.

    UFC has pulled even and, in some cases, has gone ahead of boxing when it comes to attendance and pay-per-view ratings. From all indications, the UFC and other variations of the sport have only scratched the surface, too.

    Showtime has climbed aboard. Once ESPN and boxing king HBO join the parade, which seems inevitable, interest will skyrocket.

    The truth is, many boxing fans have been alienated by some of the sport's well-publicized woes.

    Dubious, if not corrupt, decisions, dirty business dealings and a watered-down talent pool — not to mention the head-scratching array of alphabet soup ratings organizations — have many boxing fans looking elsewhere for fistic entertainment.

    Boxing has no one to blame but itself. And it's too bad.

    Prizefighting has given us names like Louis and Armstrong, Dempsey and Marciano, Frazier and Foreman and Ali. It's provided high drama and some of the greatest moments in sports history, the Thrilla in Manila and the Rumble in the Jungle.

    Cage fighting has produced UFC 52, 53, 54, 55 and so on. How sexy is that?

    Apparently, UFC pays its marketing people as well as it pays its fighters.

    But most of that epic talent and the long list of colorful and charismatic characters in boxing are long gone. They still call it the sweet science, and some of the romance that inspired people like Mailer and Hemingway to write about it is still there, but it's fading.

    Ultimate fighting doesn't have the history. It doesn't have boxing's deep roots. But it has one thing boxing doesn't — a growing audience. Its rabid fans like the combination of disciplines the sport offers — boxing, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, judo and others — and the variety of ways a fighter can win.

    Oh, yes, and the blood-and-guts violence, too.

    By and large, boxing people have turned up their noses at these submission specialists. The standard complaint? Many go into mixed-martial arts fighting only because they can't make it in boxing.

    But put Mike Tyson in a UFC octagon against a Tim Sylvia or even a Chuck Liddell, and unless Tyson learns to fight on his back and knocks his opponent out with one punch, he'd have no chance.

    Admittedly, I've had limited exposure to ultimate fighting. But what has impressed me most is the sportsmanship that is displayed. To its fighters, most of whom are talented, well-trained and conditioned athletes, at the end of the day, it's just a sport.

    And that's refreshing.

    The real test for ultimate fighting's long-term health, however, will be when the first fatality occurs on U.S. soil. Yes, the shorter bouts don't produce the head trauma that boxing does. But it'll happen someday.

    Until then, I'll stick with boxing.

    That being said, I can't afford to ignore the MMA craze much longer. I may be old-school and just old, period. I may not know the difference between an arm bar and a taco bar, but I can learn.

    Therefore, I've decided to keep an open mind.

    Boxing should do the same.
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    *yawn* .....

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      He makes a a lot of good points there. I fear the future of boxing. Because UFC is taking over boxing, fast. And the UFC being much popular and have more fans and audiences than boxing is inevitable. The Hughes-St.Piere fight had 700,000 buys. Thats twice compared to Pacquiao-Morales. And even though Pacquiao is the most exciting fighter in boxing, he is no Oscar De La Hoya when it comes to PPV buys..

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        *goes to see real boxing news*

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          I love it how 2 posters ignored the article when it was written by a BOXING FAN who even starts out saying call me old fashioned and he doesnt really care for MMA!

          read the article its a good informative article...guys stop being in denial we need to do something about this! its because boxing is dying fast.

          notice it before its too late! and dont attack me im just bringing the warning and news...i am a BOXING fan dont be ignorant and think im against boxing just because i see the truth.

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            Originally posted by hectari
            I love it how 2 posters ignored the article when it was written by a BOXING FAN who even starts out saying call me old fashioned and he doesnt really care for MMA!

            read the article its a good informative article...guys stop being in denial we need to do something about this! its because boxing is dying fast.

            notice it before its too late! and dont attack me im just bringing the warning and news...i am a BOXING fan dont be ignorant and think im against boxing just because i see the truth.
            i saw it before it was ever posted on the internet

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            • hectari
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              MMA was on 60 minutes last night and they brang positive light to mma saying tha tmore people watched UFC tito vs shamrock then the baseball worldseries the same night! if that doesnt speak volumes your in denial.

              guys did you read this one? the sad news is MMA is taking over every paper is writing about it, every mainstream white person loves it they say boxing is for thugs and gang ****ers...its similar to how rap became mainstream with whites when EMINEM came out...ufc is taking over plain and simple...what can boxing do?

              Ultimate fighting wins loyalty

              Updated 12/5/2006 10:17 AM ET
              By Marco R. della Cava, USA TODAY
              SACRAMENTO — John Lennon's voice floats through the jam-packed Arco Arena.

              Imagine all the people, living life in peace …

              Fat chance tonight.

              The music dies, and two giants storm at each other. Packing muscles a superhero would envy, Jeff "The Snowman" Monson locks forearms with Tim "The Maine-iac" Sylvia, who looks like a grizzled longshoreman capable of crushing a tuna into sandwiches.

              Twenty-five grueling minutes later, Monson leaves the arena with a swollen eye socket, while Sylvia, his legs painted with his opponent's blood, retains the heavyweight crown in the nation's bona fide entertainment phenomenon: the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

              Satisfied, a fan claps and raves: "I love that this really is a battle, plain and simple."

              It shall be noted that the fan is not a) drunk, b) an ex-con or c) a man.

              "Boxing is boring. Brawls are not," says Stephanie Cassidy, 24, a sixth-grade teacher from Fairfield whose husband got the $400-a-pop tickets for her birthday.

              Which is pretty much all you need to know about how this salute to Rome's Colosseum has evolved from cultural pariah to mainstream hit.

              In the mid-'90s, Ultimate Fighting eschewed all rules in a quest to see who could survive the ultimate beating, famously spurring Sen. John McCain to brand it "human ****fighting."

              Today, with new owners and some restraint (no eye-gouging, please), UFC is a powerhouse that is starting to branch out from its Las Vegas home base, as with tonight's contest in the California capital.

              Signs of success include the fact that UFC's Spike TV reality show, The Ultimate Fighter, often outdraws NBA and baseball games among the coveted 18- to 34-year-old male demographic. Its pay-per-view bouts are estimated to pull in eight figures, and ufc.com has doubled its traffic, to 2 million unique visitors a month, in the past year. What's more, UFC has generated wannabes who post video clips of their backyard clashes on sites such as YouTube.

              Far from being a lone oddity, UFC has spawned five other MMA leagues (mixed martial arts, which combines a variety of striking and grappling techniques), one of which, Pro Elite, just signed a deal with Showtime.

              "This is the sport for a new generation," says former amateur boxer Dana White, 37, UFC's president and chief architect as he circumnavigates the Octagon, the chain-link area where his fighters mix it up. "Older people don't get it."

              White is aiming squarely for the hip multitudes. They can feel a part of the action by downloading exclusive content for a fee from UFC's website or plunk down big dollars to get that bad-boy thrill (and occasionally rub shoulders with celebrities) at sold-out fight nights.

              "I don't miss one of these events, ever, and if I can't come, I TiVo it," says Hollywood superagent Ari Emanuel, sitting ringside. "These are some of the best athletes …"

              Emanuel's jaw drops midsentence as, mere feet away, local hero James "Sandman" Irvin lands a punch that flattens his opponent.

              "This is going to be huge," says Emanuel, a onetime wrestler and template for incendiary agent Ari Gold on HBO's Entourage, which incidentally will set an upcoming episode at a UFC bout. "A lot of people, networks and cable, are circling. You've got fans with a huge economic diversity. You've got an international appeal. Just watch."

              Couples, war vets, kids

              Scanning the crowd at Arco does seem to validate that enthusiasm. Over here is a grandfatherly type trading mock punches with his adult son. Up by the rafters are a group of Iraq war veterans eager to vent. To judge from all the couples in attendance, you'd think this was a concert or a movie megaplex.

              Beyond the surprising abundance of women, there's also a range of races (only African-Americans seem in short supply), professions (from shelf stockers to stock brokers) and ages (from the occasional gray hair to the blond tresses of a 5-year-old).

              "Sophia watches me do my martial arts training, so this isn't a big deal," says the kindergartner's father, Joe Namee, 36, of Georgetown, Texas, who's here to see friend Matt Hughes defend his welterweight title. (In fact, Sophia soon falls asleep, despite the mayhem.)

              "I'm addicted to this stuff, and so is my wife," Namee says. "It's not just thugs going at each other."

              Look into the cultural oddity that is Ultimate Fighting and, indeed, a few themes get beaten into your head by fans. Among them:

              •Far from being barroom brawlers, UFC toughs often have college degrees, and some boast winning careers as boxers, jujitsu fighters, Muay Thai practitioners and collegiate wrestlers.

              •Boxers have died in the ring, but so far not one UFC fighter.

              •Football and baseball may be American pastimes, but for a high-tech generation weaned on immediacy, such sporadic action doesn't compare with UFC's short and definitive flurries of violence.

              Helping spread the gospel are fascinated filmmakers such as Pericles Lewnes, whose independent documentary Fighter follows the exploits of UFC legend Randy "The Natural" Couture.

              "There's a direct parallel here to NASCAR," Lewnes says. "That sport has illegal roots. Slowly it went mainstream, but it's retained that renegade aura. Same with Ultimate Fighting. It'll likely always have that sinister association from its no-holds-barred days."

              An outlaw air is fuel to any fiery lifestyle trend, says Alan Marques, co-owner of onthemat.com, an MMA fan site that recently expanded into retail stores.

              "A lot of our shoppers just want to look the part, the same way people are lured to skateboarding and surf wear," Marques says. "Wear a T-shirt with a tie to mixed martial arts, and instantly you've got this tough, in-your-face image."

              For a populace jittery about the threat of terrorism at home and a costly war abroad, that tough-by-association ****tail can be hard to pass up. "Much of life feels out of control right now, so to see these gladiators fight your fight for you — it's somehow comforting," says Mike Voight, a lecturer on the sociology of sport at the University of Southern California. "It used to be boxing that gave us that escape."

              Can UFC rise from former freak show to become the new boxing, a provider of epic bouts on a par with those Ali-Frazier duels? That's the very job of UFC's Marc Ratner, once an influential boxing regulator with the powerful Nevada State Athletic Commission.

              "I deeply love boxing, but it's great to be in on the ground floor of a new sport," says the elegant Ratner, 61, who cuts an odd professorial figure at Arco. "It's not for everybody, and some never get beyond the brutality. But if you go to an event, you see the art to it."

              It doesn't hurt that, this time around, there is little uproar.

              Ratner appeared with McCain on CNN's Larry King Live lambasting the upstart UFC. Now he's on board, while McCain, who hasn't said anything about UFC lately, couldn't be reached for comment.

              Parents who fret about UFC's delinquent influence have an ally in White. If kids who post fight videos "are trying to catch our eye, they'd be better off going to college, like most of our fighters," he says.

              Just your everyday fighter

              That many UFC fighters look and sound like everyday people — compared with figures like Mike Tyson and Hulk Hogan — is a powerful part of the sport's popularity.

              Matt Hughes was a four-time All-American wrestler at two Midwestern colleges who likes to talk about how his bouts "are chess matches that require immense dedication and discipline." More to the point, far from being Goliath, Hughes is a compact 5-foot-9.

              As Hughes takes to the Octagon to defend his title against brash Canadian Georges St. Pierre (St. Pierre will score a shocking upset just minutes in), fan and actor Robert Patrick edges forward in his seat.

              "I love how many of these guys are my size. It makes it something I can relate to," says Patrick, molten co-star of Terminator 2: Judgment Day and CBS' The Unit.

              As the lights dim and the arena goes on the boil (metal music thrashing, crowds screaming, ring girls wiggling), Patrick's eyes widen. "I suppose all this is some kind of reflection on our society," he says. "But there's also just a great nobility to being a great warrior."

              That's UFC as sociological mirror, a link to our roots as creatures bent on survival. But there's another UFC, the one that's just a heck of a way to rage with old friends.

              Sean Bombace, 35, and Clinton Bailey, 32, are paramedics. In between cold beers, the two debate their sport's appeal until they're almost toe to toe.

              Bombace: "It satisfies the blood lust."

              Bailey: "You make it sound gory."

              Bombace: "Don't sugarcoat it. It is what it is."

              What UFC is can be wrestled into this: an upscale street duel elegantly marketed to the masses. And the masses are loving it.

              "We rent a hotel room, start to party, and pretty soon we're choking each other out," a grinning Bombace says. "Awesome."


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              • hectari
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                "Boxing is boring. Brawls are not," says Stephanie Cassidy, 24, a sixth-grade teacher from Fairfield whose husband got the $400-a-pop tickets for her birthday.

                ^what do you guys think of this ladies comment?

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                  With a comment like that, it’s not surprising he/she's only teaching 12-13 year olds.
                  Last edited by Liaison; 12-11-2006, 03:10 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by hectari
                    "Boxing is boring. Brawls are not," says Stephanie Cassidy, 24, a sixth-grade teacher from Fairfield whose husband got the $400-a-pop tickets for her birthday.

                    ^what do you guys think of this ladies comment?
                    "The only difference between UFC and Gay **** is the pay per veiw" Says Alex Fanes, 23, a junior bank clark in kentucky.

                    ^What do you think of that guys comment?

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