Joe Calzaghe just can't catch a break...

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  • Mishra100
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    #11
    Does anyone consider the fact that his left shoulder was bothering him throughout the fight? Everyone isn't running around saying Clottey looked like total ****.

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    • MickyHatton
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      #12
      Originally posted by Kaynan
      Calzaghe can't catch a break? He caught a ****ing dream when he came in as the underdog against a guy who was never as good as people thought. He beat the **** out of Jeff Lacy and didn't have to risk much to get the fame, cuz Lacy is not as good as people thought.

      What I'm saying is, rather than Calzaghe outclassing Lacy, Lacy's hype outclassed him, and lead to him being exposed against a better fighter.
      There is a lot of sense in this statement but who is more foolish, Lacy and his team for building up the hype or the many people around the world who believed it?

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        #13
        Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
        Joe Calzaghe is good, it's Jeff Lacy who isn't good.
        I guess it kind of hurts Calzaghe's cred considering Lacy was his best opponent.
        The concept that Lacy is Joe Blow's best opponent is the mindset of a slimy Yank cos they don't get their head out of their arses or do any research.

        I'd rather take an old Eubank, a (not shot) Robin Reid and a Richie Woodhall, to name just three, over Lacy. Lacy's ****. Hell, I'd even take Omar over him.

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        • GEOFFHAYES
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          #14
          Delaney, Reid, Starie, Sheika, Woodhall, Veit, Brewer and Mitchell are better than Lacy, based on Lacy's last four fights atleast (the only ones I've seen).

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          • Super_Lightweight
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            #15
            Following the Lacy fight with fights vs Manfredo and Bika does not garner respect, and nor should it. Not the type of a respect the top dog at 168 should get anyway. It's time to fight Kessler, Adamek, Briggs, Woods, Johnson or someone along those lines.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              Following the Lacy fight with fights vs Manfredo and Bika does not garner respect, and nor should it. Not the type of a respect the top dog at 168 should get anyway. It's time to fight Kessler, Adamek, Briggs, Woods, Johnson or someone along those lines.
              "If you criticize Calzaghe you need your head tested" - Roy Jones

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              • !! Anorak
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                #17
                Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                Following the Lacy fight with fights vs Manfredo and Bika does not garner respect, and nor should it. Not the type of a respect the top dog at 168 should get anyway. It's time to fight Kessler, Adamek, Briggs, Woods, Johnson or someone along those lines.


                Why can't people get it into their heads that the Manfredo fight is just there so fat Americans watching it while eating their tenth donut can go "Yo, dis guy just beat a fellow American guy? Maybe he's good." It's just a PROMO fight. If he gets Taylor on the back of it, it validates the exercise, even if it IS a total mismatch. What Joe Blow is basically saying is that "Yanks are thick, so if I beat the **** out of one of them they'll love me more than if I take on a European who actually knows how to fight." He's taking the piss out of you basically.


                As for Bika, then I don't think it's TOO bad considering Blow was coming back from a long lay off and an injury sustained by slapping seven shades of **** out of Lacy. I mean, FFS, they can't all be high calibre opponents like Richard Frazier, y'know.

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                • Super_Lightweight
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                  #18
                  Why can't people get it into their heads that the Manfredo fight is just there so fat Americans watching it while eating their tenth donut can go "Yo, dis guy just beat a fellow American guy? Maybe he's good."
                  I'm not concerned with these marketing ploys. Manfredo is a decent fighter, but he is not on Joe's level and has done nothing to warrant a fight with him. Joe should be fighting the top guys at this point in his career. Roy went after Ruiz and Tarver. Joe needs to be going for Kessler and Adamek. He's not young anymore and he is wasting time.

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                  • K-Nan
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MickyHatton
                    There is a lot of sense in this statement but who is more foolish, Lacy and his team for building up the hype or the many people around the world who believed it?
                    Both, man. And that includes me too. I thought Lacy was the ****. Now I'm pissed off at being led on to believe that.

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                    • !! Anorak
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      I'm not concerned with these marketing ploys. Manfredo is a decent fighter, but he is not on Joe's level and has done nothing to warrant a fight with him. Joe should be fighting the top guys at this point in his career. Roy went after Ruiz and Tarver. Joe needs to be going for Kessler and Adamek. He's not young anymore and he is wasting time.
                      I've just EXPLAINED to you why he's fighting Manfredo. It's on the cards that he'll be fighting Taylor in the summer. NOWHERE in my post above did I say that Manfredo was a legit opponent... in fact, I said it was a mismatch so why are you telling me something I've already just said?

                      As for Roy facing the mighty and respected John Ruiz, then going on to fight Tarver (tally: looked lucky to win the first one considered he was battered and stunned during it; got china chop checked in the second; **** his pants and showed he had no heart in the third) I'm surprised you even bring 'em up. What's next, you tell us about how great he was cos he KO'd Griffin on the floor after ****ting it for most of the fight, or how he got china chopped again against Monson? Still, it's not all bad... he showed he can still beat the class of opponent he faced for most of his career last time out.

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