Looking back at De La Hoya-Chavez

[Smokin']

If Taylor wasn't a philly fighter he would outclass Chavez easily. But he was a philly fighter and he elected to trade thus chavez' sharp counters wore him down.

[Soldier01]

I would also have to go with DLH based on his size and overall boxing skills. Prime Chavez or not DLH would've won it.

[Mr. Ryan]

Tell that to Meldrick Taylor.
Taylor might have stood in 1 second to long on his combinations, (just long enough for Chavez to throw that one shot back), but Meldrick Taylor is def 1 second faster than the afforementioned.

The difference is that De La Hoya was longer and hit much harder. Chavez had no problem taking 2 to land one against Taylor, but that same thing was taking years of his life with De La Hoya.

When I watch the ring walk for the fight, Chavez is walking out to his usual fanfare composed as hell. That's when I knew to respect older fighters. Here is Chavez, knowing in his mind that he's fixing to get his comeuppance in the ring, about to be publicly humiliated by a younger, stronger fighter, and he's just outwardly oblivious to this. He has heart, he has balls.

[wmute]

I think those who are so sure of picking oscar prime4prime are overrating his skills:

this guy is not a slickster, he wastes too much movement, he would be the bigger man in the ring, but he would not be able to move all night.

pea did it: look at pea's legs, then look at oscar's legs.

moreover pea was able to stand on the inside/midrange slipping punches and covering his body. Oscar would not be able to do that. period. he would get tagged on the body so many times that his legs would be gone late in the fight (oscar's stamina is not that great).

prime4prime I see oscar winning the early rounds with potshotting, but being no sweet pea he would have to slow down, when the fight became a fight a prime chavez would start winning rounds. the winner would be a matter of when the tide changes.

in a 15 round fight it would be chavez for sure, maybe by late stoppage.

[dave777]

Sure made a mess of Chavez

Watch the fight below:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=De+La+Hoya-Chavez

[ferocity]

I think those who are so sure of picking oscar prime4prime are overrating his skills:

this guy is not a slickster, he wastes too much movement, he would be the bigger man in the ring, but he would not be able to move all night.

pea did it: look at pea's legs, then look at oscar's legs.

moreover pea was able to stand on the inside/midrange slipping punches and covering his body. Oscar would not be able to do that. period. he would get tagged on the body so many times that his legs would be gone late in the fight (oscar's stamina is not that great).

prime4prime I see oscar winning the early rounds with potshotting, but being no sweet pea he would have to slow down, when the fight became a fight a prime chavez would start winning rounds. the winner would be a matter of when the tide changes.

in a 15 round fight it would be chavez for sure, maybe by late stoppage.

I aggree, people forget that Delahoya gets winded in the middle of the rounds. Chavez doesn't have this problem. I too go with Chavez in this match up.

[ferocity]

Sure made a mess of Chavez

Watch the fight below:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=De+La+Hoya-Chavez

Chavez already had a small cut going into the fight.

[dino]

chavez couldnt beat de la hoya at any point in their career period...de la hoya was a greatest mexican fighter ever thats why he could move thru weights...and chavez was only 32 the first time they fought

[Steel Glovez]

The difference is that De La Hoya was longer and hit much harder. Chavez had no problem taking 2 to land one against Taylor, but that same thing was taking years of his life with De La Hoya.

When I watch the ring walk for the fight, Chavez is walking out to his usual fanfare composed as hell. That's when I knew to respect older fighters. Here is Chavez, knowing in his mind that he's fixing to get his comeuppance in the ring, about to be publicly humiliated by a younger, stronger fighter, and he's just outwardly oblivious to this. He has heart, he has balls.

How do you know honestly? Have you been hit by a De La Hoya or a Chavez punch? I'm convinced that you haven't seen many JCC fights. Have you ever heard of Macho Camacho, the defensive juggernaut? Do you know what Chavez did to him? What about Edwin Rosario, one of the hardest punchers P4P ever (he single-handedly made Camacho change his boxing style)? Have you seen what Chavez did to his face before the fight had to be stopped? Do you know how seriously ****ed up my man Meldrick Taylor was after both his fights with JCC? Any of these fighters would have went the distance with DLH if not beat him. Ask Roger Mayweather how hard Chavez punches. What about Greg Haugen, a boxer who was in tough-man competitions where he fought much bigger guys then him. I’m talking 2 or 3 weight classes higher. He thought he was easily going to be able to take Chavez’s punches because of this. Meldrick also had gone up in weight and thought that because he had lasted with bigger, stronger fighters, that Chavez’s blows wouldn’t have much effect on him. I’m not hating, but you should seriously study the boxers you choose to write about before you go and do **** like this. I understand that DLH was taller, with much longer arms, but Chavez had a chin like no one else in his prime, and wasn’t as slow as people thought. Oscar wasn’t as fast as you’re saying, and I doubt he would run from Chavez all night like other fighters would, even though that would be the smart thing to do.

[The Noose]

On paper, it was a total mismatch..

With Chavez (and his record) against a young fighter still proving himself at a new weight, it was not a total mismatch.

I think those who are so sure of picking oscar prime4prime are overrating his skills:

this guy is not a slickster, he wastes too much movement, he would be the bigger man in the ring, but he would not be able to move all night.

pea did it: look at pea's legs, then look at oscar's legs.

moreover pea was able to stand on the inside/midrange slipping punches and covering his body. Oscar would not be able to do that. period. he would get tagged on the body so many times that his legs would be gone late in the fight (oscar's stamina is not that great).

prime4prime I see oscar winning the early rounds with potshotting, but being no sweet pea he would have to slow down, when the fight became a fight a prime chavez would start winning rounds. the winner would be a matter of when the tide changes.

in a 15 round fight it would be chavez for sure, maybe by late stoppage.

Good post. If Chavez didnt get cut up, he would of started to break DLH up in the later rounds. Im still not sure who wins tho.

How do you know honestly? Have you been hit by a De La Hoya or a Chavez punch? I'm convinced that you haven't seen many JCC fights. Have you ever heard of Macho Camacho, the defensive juggernaut? Do you know what Chavez did to him? What about Edwin Rosario, one of the hardest punchers P4P ever (he single-handedly made Camacho change his boxing style)? Have you seen what Chavez did to his face before the fight had to be stopped? Do you know how seriously ****ed up my man Meldrick Taylor was after both his fights with JCC? Any of these fighters would have went the distance with DLH if not beat him. Ask Roger Mayweather how hard Chavez punches. What about Greg Haugen, a boxer who was in tough-man competitions where he fought much bigger guys then him. I’m talking 2 or 3 weight classes higher. He thought he was easily going to be able to take Chavez’s punches because of this. Meldrick also had gone up in weight and thought that because he had lasted with bigger, stronger fighters, that Chavez’s blows wouldn’t have much effect on him. I’m not hating, but you should seriously study the boxers you choose to write about before you go and do **** like this. I understand that DLH was taller, with much longer arms, but Chavez had a chin like no one else in his prime, and wasn’t as slow as people thought. Oscar wasn’t as fast as you’re saying, and I doubt he would run from Chavez all night like other fighters would, even though that would be the smart thing to do.

Ur asking how does he know how hard Chavez hit, yet u urself dont know wat fights he has watched. Just because his opinion differs from urs.

Chavez's punches had more of a acumilative effect. Whereas DLH had more one punch power. IMO.