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  • GEOFFHAYES
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    Roy Jones a fraud: John Conteh

    Funny article from a few years back.




    By PAT SHEEHAN in Portland, Oregon



    JOHN CONTEH says Roy Jones Jnr's tag as the world's best pound-for-pound boxer is a myth.

    Former WBC world light-heavyweight champ Conteh insists Sheffield star Clinton Woods will face nothing special here tomorrow night.

    Woods, 30, boldly chases Jones' WBC, WBA and IBF world crowns but has been given no chance by many boxing pundits. Yet Conteh argues Jones has made a career out of beating no one in particular.

    Liverpool legend Conteh, who held the title from 1974-77, said: "Jones is a one-trick pony who is one of the most over-rated fighters I have seen. Okay, he has fast hands. However, he's been getting away with it because of the calibre of opponents he's faced in recent years.

    "I don't see anything special. Any boxer in the world can look good against the guys he has been fighting.

    "(Nigel) Benn and (Chris) Eubank would of beaten him. Benn would of cut him off and Eubank would of ground him down, and those guys were just celebrity boxers more than anything else.

    "There's absolutely no question that legends like Bob Foster and Michael Spinks would of taken him apart, putting Jones in that bracket is a joke.

    "As for me, I try to be modest. But with all due respect I'm leagues above any of these guys he fights. A good jab and timing beats all that 'fancy dan' stuff, he's terribly flawed."

    Yank Jones, 33, gained legendary status after winning world titles at middle, super-middle AND light-heavyweight.

    He has lost just once in a 47-fight career - and that 1997 defeat, by Montell Griffin, was avenged by a first-round KO in the rematch.

    Yet Jones has also taken flak for the quality of his opponents and other fight fans talked of a 'Roycott' because they were so fed up with his diet of stiffs.

    Conteh is one of the unconvinced and added: "If I had fought boxers like he's been defending against, I could have done all that fancy stuff.

    "Instead, I met REAL fighters, properly-prepared challengers who brought something to the ring."

    Conteh added: "Woods has a chance. He's got the talent and heart, though fighting Jones in America is going into the lion's den.

    "He has to have a positive mental attitude so he's confident enough to use all of his armoury."
  • brownpimp88
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    John Conteh is actually right folks. Roy is 16-4 at 175 and lets take a look at the people he beat from this wieght class.

    conteh is better than the following guys roy beat:
    lou del valle
    richard hall
    prince badi ajamu
    david telesco
    otis grant
    richard frazier
    derick harmon
    glenn kelly
    eric harding
    reggie johnson
    julio cesar gonzales
    clinton woods

    Conteh is in the same league as montell griffin. Tarver and Virgil Hill are the only 175ers that are better than john conteh, that roy beat.

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    • The Noose
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      Conteh just sounds bitter. He not only calls Jones a one trick pony (which trick is that? Going from Middleweight to Heavyweight?), but Conteh also calls Benn and Eubank 'celebrity boxers'.
      WTF does that mean?

      Its easy to look at the few fighters Jones should have faced, and ignore the good fighters he did face, and beat with such ease. He stepped up to fight the undefeated top supermiddleweight, James Toney...and look wat happened. That one must have slipped Contehs mind.

      Bob Foster and Spinks would also of taken Conteh apart.
      He claimed Woods has talent and heart...but Jones pissed on him.

      Conteh can really only dream of achieving what Jones did.

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      • kayjay
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        #4
        Geoff made those quotes up kids. You can tell by the way he uses 'of' in the perfect. No journalist would HAVE transcribed it that way.

        He did this **** all the time.

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        • pr20
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          #5
          I thought it was just me who caught that journalistic misstep. bottom line is that roy fought a lot of fighters that people were applauding for their skill and talent until they were taken apart by roy.

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          • brownpimp88
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            Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu
            Conteh just sounds bitter. He not only calls Jones a one trick pony (which trick is that? Going from Middleweight to Heavyweight?), but Conteh also calls Benn and Eubank 'celebrity boxers'.
            WTF does that mean?

            Its easy to look at the few fighters Jones should have faced, and ignore the good fighters he did face, and beat with such ease. He stepped up to fight the undefeated top supermiddleweight, James Toney...and look wat happened. That one must have slipped Contehs mind.

            Bob Foster and Spinks would also of taken Conteh apart.
            He claimed Woods has talent and heart...but Jones pissed on him.

            Conteh can really only dream of achieving what Jones did.
            dude conteh fought in a deep era, do uthink roy would be champ for 7 years if he fought when spinks, galindez and foster were around, i dont think so pal.

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            • The Surgeon
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              #7
              All i know is Roy Jones Jnr is a better fighter than John Conteh, EVEN @Light heavy!

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              • astrosfreak
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                "Former WBC world light-heavyweight champ Conteh insists Sheffield star Clinton Woods will face nothing special here tomorrow night."

                Obviously, Conteh wrote that before the Woods fight. And after the fight, he probably wadded it up and threw it in the trash. lol.

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                • -Hyperion-
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                  Originally posted by brownpimp88
                  John Conteh is actually right folks. Roy is 16-4 at 175 and lets take a look at the people he beat from this wieght class.

                  conteh is better than the following guys roy beat:
                  lou del valle
                  richard hall
                  prince badi ajamu
                  david telesco
                  otis grant
                  richard frazier
                  derick harmon
                  glenn kelly
                  eric harding
                  reggie johnson
                  julio cesar gonzales
                  clinton woods

                  Conteh is in the same league as montell griffin. Tarver and Virgil Hill are the only 175ers that are better than john conteh, that roy beat.
                  julio cesar gonzales is better, the man that gave DM his first loss

                  All i know is Roy Jones Jnr is a better fighter than John Conteh, EVEN @Light heavy!
                  that's it, roy jones fighter of the decade
                  Last edited by -Hyperion-; 02-22-2007, 07:46 PM.

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                  • wmute
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by brownpimp88
                    John Conteh is actually right folks. Roy is 16-4 at 175 and lets take a look at the people he beat from this wieght class.

                    conteh is better than the following guys roy beat:
                    lou del valle
                    richard hall
                    prince badi ajamu
                    david telesco
                    otis grant
                    richard frazier
                    derick harmon
                    glenn kelly
                    eric harding
                    reggie johnson
                    julio cesar gonzales
                    clinton woods

                    Conteh is in the same league as montell griffin. Tarver and Virgil Hill are the only 175ers that are better than john conteh, that roy beat.
                    16-4 is counting jones' campaign after he moved down from LHW, his first loss after griffin came at 35. Only one of the great LHWs did anything worth noting at that age, i know you and i know i do not need to tell you who that is.

                    and btw mike mccallum had been figthing at 175 since his second fight with toney, so you should probably count him in. (I know he was 39 by then, but he should be on the list anyway).

                    that been said

                    michael spinks would have cleaned the floor with jones,

                    but jones would have cleaned the floor with conteh just as much.

                    I do not rate jones very high at 175, but this conteh guy is just eaten away by jealousy. benn and eubank just tv stars? come on...

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